On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:17 AM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusa...@webmd.net> wrote:

> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusa...@webmd.net]
>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:05 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Support lifetime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us]
>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 10:04 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Support lifetime
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 05:34:41AM -0500, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013, at 03:00 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
>>>>>> I stated my opinion on this previously [1], but for the record again:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would suggest that we only do bug-fix releases for:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - The latest feature release of our active major version number (i.e.:
>>>>>> 4.x)
>>>> 
>>>> To make sure I get this right:
>>>> 
>>>> So Once we release 4.2 we will only bug fix 4.1 and stop bug fixing 4.0 ?
>>> 
>>> That's what I'm proposing, yes.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> - The latest feature release of our last major version number
>>>>>> (doesn't  exist today, but will be 4.x when / if we bump to 5.0)
>>>> 
>>>> Once we jump to 5.X we will bug fix the latest 4.x release (if it's 4.2, we
>> will stop bug fixing 4.1) ?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> That's also what I'm proposing, yup.
>>> 
>>>> The really crucial part for me is to make sure we have a really 
>>>> solid/tested
>> upgrade path. We cannot leave anyone out in the cold of a "unsupported"
>> release.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Indeed.  Upgrades remain critical to this project.  We need to
>>> constantly ensure that we have upgrade paths available from any
>>> version to the latest version.
>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just my opinion though.  Others?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/quzgjne44prl5m2c
>>>>> 
>>>>> Given the current levels of participation on dot-releases, I think
>>>>> this is the most realistic approach that's good for the community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1
>>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> So software typically has several stages:
>> 
>>> Does end of support mean both of these things simultaneously.
>>> No more bugfixes
>>> No more security fixes
>> 
>>> So wearing your enterprise software consumer hat - does a support
>>> lifetime of approximately 12 months make sense? (not saying it
>>> doesn't, just asking the question) Under the above proposal we'd end
>>> support for the 4.0 line after 4.2 releases. (I'd personally say we  >
>>> should add a month (so that EOL is one month after 4.n+2 releases,
>>> with the understanding that 4.n is likely to only receive security
>>> fixes if any during that extra one month window)
>> 
>>> --David
>> 
>> I think a 12 month support is reasonable for bug fixes and security patches.
>> Now if we adhere to a release schedule of 4 months, we will have 3 new
>> releases every year, within 24 month cycle, there is going to be 6 versions 
>> of
>> CloudStack to either release or maintain.
>> 
>> Does anyone else besides myself thinks it's a little too much to handle?
>> 
> 
> 
> If I do the math right, 34 (not 36) months from now, we are going to maintain 
> 9 versions of cloudstack.
> Forward looking, it gets complicated. We release 3 versions per year, and yet 
> only 1 rolls off the support.
> 

Ilya has a good point here, maintaining 9 releases seems like a lot 


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