Para aquellos que estén interesados en la performance habran esta página en los distintos browsers: http://code.google.com/apis/v8/run.html
Lo que me da a mi es: Chrone (V8): 1329 FireFox: 142 Safari: 112 Explorer: jaja, luego de preguntarme si quiero dejar corriendo el script porque está haciendo lento el navegador... un calomitoso: 24 En fin... On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Hernan Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Quizá me equivoqué... en http://code.google.com/apis/v8/design.html hacen > referencia a Self y Smalltalk, por fin! > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Hernan Wilkinson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> No te entiendo por que decis que nos sabes si creerle...Yo acabo de bajar >> Chrone y realmente es mucho más veloz que el Firefox... la interface de >> Gmail vuela... >> Nuevamente se puede ver como Smalltalk y Self cambiaron la programación >> para siempre, lástima que ahora será JavaScript quien se lleve todos los >> laureles (o por lo menos parece que eso sucederá) >> >> Hernan. >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:12 PM, GallegO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Interesante... no se que opinan, tampoco se si creerle a Dave... dice >>> despues de tanto tiempo.... >>> >>> Saludos >>> GallegO >>> >>> -------- Mensaje original -------- >>> Asunto: Chrome and V8 >>> Fecha: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:14:32 -0700 (PDT) >>> De: Dave Griswold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Responder a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Para: Strongtalk-general <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> It's been a while, but now that Google has announced Chrome and V8, I >>> can finally make a little clearer a major reason why I haven't been >>> pushing Strongtalk development for quite a while: Chrome's new >>> JavaScript engine V8. >>> >>> The V8 development team has multiple members of the original >>> Animorphic team; it is headed by Lars Bak, who was the technical lead >>> for both Strongtalk and the HotSpot Java VM (as well as a huge >>> contributor to the original Self VM). I think that you will find >>> that V8 has a lot of the creamy goodness of the Strongtalk and Self >>> VMs, with many big architectural improvements: >>> >>> * open source >>> * will run (eventually) on Windows, Linux, and Mac >>> * dynamically JITs to native code >>> * can run completely independently from the browser >>> * generates hidden classes behind the scenes, since javascript doesn't >>> have them (very reminiscent of the 'maps' used in the Self VM). >>> * is multi-threaded from the ground up, with the ability to share VM >>> overhead between different OS processes. >>> * has even smaller object headers than in Strongtalk, making small >>> object overhead even smaller >>> * kick-ass compacting, non-conservative garbage collector >>> >>> The really big deal here is the fundamentally multi-threaded, multi- >>> process nature of the VM. That is something that we don't really have >>> the ability to just hack into the Strongtalk VM; it would involve >>> practically an entire rewrite. Plus, expect a lot of architectural >>> improvements in the source code based on experience with Self, >>> Strongtalk and Java Hotspot VMs. >>> >>> I think these properties will rapidly make V8 the dominant VM for >>> dynamic languages. It ought to make a great platform for Smalltalk. >>> >>> Since I am not a Googler, and they are so secretive, I am not yet >>> privy to all the gory details, but I suspect that it probably won't >>> use type-feedback like Strongtalk, which would be the one big negative >>> (and would mean that it wouldn't be as fast as Strongtalk). However I >>> don't know that for sure, and in any case it will be open source, >>> which means that it might be a nice platform to add type-feedback- >>> based inlining to if they don't do it. At any rate, it *does* JIT to >>> native code, so it will be far faster than Squeak, and probably a lot >>> faster than Visualworks as well. >>> >>> We'll have to see what the details are when the code comes out, but >>> the release of the V8 VM is the beginning of a whole new era for >>> dynamic languages (Smalltalk, Ruby, Python, etc). >>> >>> Let the flood of fast new dynamic language implementations begin! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clubSmalltalk.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
