memory.... (leaks...) On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Andres Valloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > En Firefox la primera vez me dio 143, la segunda 134, la tercera 131 y > la cuarta 130... ?!... > > Andres. > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Hernan Wilkinson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Para aquellos que estén interesados en la performance habran esta página > en > > los distintos browsers: > > http://code.google.com/apis/v8/run.html > > Lo que me da a mi es: > > Chrone (V8): 1329 > > FireFox: 142 > > Safari: 112 > > Explorer: jaja, luego de preguntarme si quiero dejar corriendo el script > > porque está haciendo lento el navegador... un calomitoso: 24 > > En fin... > > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Hernan Wilkinson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Quizá me equivoqué... en http://code.google.com/apis/v8/design.htmlhacen > >> referencia a Self y Smalltalk, por fin! > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Hernan Wilkinson > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> No te entiendo por que decis que nos sabes si creerle... > >>> Yo acabo de bajar Chrone y realmente es mucho más veloz que el > Firefox... > >>> la interface de Gmail vuela... > >>> Nuevamente se puede ver como Smalltalk y Self cambiaron la programación > >>> para siempre, lástima que ahora será JavaScript quien se lleve todos > los > >>> laureles (o por lo menos parece que eso sucederá) > >>> Hernan. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:12 PM, GallegO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Interesante... no se que opinan, tampoco se si creerle a Dave... dice > >>>> despues de tanto tiempo.... > >>>> > >>>> Saludos > >>>> GallegO > >>>> > >>>> -------- Mensaje original -------- > >>>> Asunto: Chrome and V8 > >>>> Fecha: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:14:32 -0700 (PDT) > >>>> De: Dave Griswold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> Responder a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Para: Strongtalk-general <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi everyone, > >>>> > >>>> It's been a while, but now that Google has announced Chrome and V8, I > >>>> can finally make a little clearer a major reason why I haven't been > >>>> pushing Strongtalk development for quite a while: Chrome's new > >>>> JavaScript engine V8. > >>>> > >>>> The V8 development team has multiple members of the original > >>>> Animorphic team; it is headed by Lars Bak, who was the technical lead > >>>> for both Strongtalk and the HotSpot Java VM (as well as a huge > >>>> contributor to the original Self VM). I think that you will find > >>>> that V8 has a lot of the creamy goodness of the Strongtalk and Self > >>>> VMs, with many big architectural improvements: > >>>> > >>>> * open source > >>>> * will run (eventually) on Windows, Linux, and Mac > >>>> * dynamically JITs to native code > >>>> * can run completely independently from the browser > >>>> * generates hidden classes behind the scenes, since javascript doesn't > >>>> have them (very reminiscent of the 'maps' used in the Self VM). > >>>> * is multi-threaded from the ground up, with the ability to share VM > >>>> overhead between different OS processes. > >>>> * has even smaller object headers than in Strongtalk, making small > >>>> object overhead even smaller > >>>> * kick-ass compacting, non-conservative garbage collector > >>>> > >>>> The really big deal here is the fundamentally multi-threaded, multi- > >>>> process nature of the VM. That is something that we don't really have > >>>> the ability to just hack into the Strongtalk VM; it would involve > >>>> practically an entire rewrite. Plus, expect a lot of architectural > >>>> improvements in the source code based on experience with Self, > >>>> Strongtalk and Java Hotspot VMs. > >>>> > >>>> I think these properties will rapidly make V8 the dominant VM for > >>>> dynamic languages. It ought to make a great platform for Smalltalk. > >>>> > >>>> Since I am not a Googler, and they are so secretive, I am not yet > >>>> privy to all the gory details, but I suspect that it probably won't > >>>> use type-feedback like Strongtalk, which would be the one big negative > >>>> (and would mean that it wouldn't be as fast as Strongtalk). However I > >>>> don't know that for sure, and in any case it will be open source, > >>>> which means that it might be a nice platform to add type-feedback- > >>>> based inlining to if they don't do it. At any rate, it *does* JIT to > >>>> native code, so it will be far faster than Squeak, and probably a lot > >>>> faster than Visualworks as well. > >>>> > >>>> We'll have to see what the details are when the code comes out, but > >>>> the release of the V8 VM is the beginning of a whole new era for > >>>> dynamic languages (Smalltalk, Ruby, Python, etc). > >>>> > >>>> Let the flood of fast new dynamic language implementations begin! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clubSmalltalk.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
