On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 06:26:46 -0600, Kevin Anderson wrote:

>Sorry, Now I see what you're saying...
>
>How many external facing connections do you have/need, and why?
>

1 connection, 5 IP's. I need the 5 IP's to run different services on multiple servers. 
HTTP, SMTP, POP3, DNS, PPTP, stuff like that. 

>Maybe if you have seperate boxes for Mail, FTP, etc, it would work to just 
>point them all at one IP, and then port forward through the firewall to the 
>appropriate box for each port.  (IE: what are you trying to do?)
>

If I had one IP address and 3 servers, all running different services, this could be 
done no problem. I just use the extended NAT/PAT to forward each service to 
their respective servers, no problem. The issue is, if I have 2 servers I want 
firewalled, both running HTTP, I need to be able to put more than one public IP 
address on the external interface of my router. I can only forward port 80 once on one 
IP address. Also, if I run any NT boxes (god forbid) behind the firewall, I 
like to run VNC on them so I can remote desktop into them from anywhere. Again, I 
would only be able to do this once per IP address.


>Kev.
>
>
>
>On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:40, you wrote:
>> No, this worn't work. I can't put my whole IP block on the external
>> interface of my Linux Box, it won't work. I can do what you suggested, no
>> problem at all, but as for running an IP pool on the external interface,
>> that's a no-go.
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:26:04 -0600, Kevin Anderson wrote:
>> >This shouldn't matter at all.
>> >
>> >Plug your (dual-homed (2 Network Cards)) Linux box into the Telus
>> >connection, and plug a hub (or whatever) into the other NIC.  Then plug
>> > all the PCs into the hub, and set them to use the Linux box as their
>> > default gateway.  The Linux box will do NAT, and there will only be 1 MAC
>> > on the Telus side anyway.  The Linux box will recieve requests from the
>> > clients, strip out their MAC & IP, replace it, and send the packet to the
>> > next hop. My Guess is that this is already happening for you.  Your
>> > firewall will look after all of it.
>> >
>> >Kev.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "timmy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:56 AM
>> >Subject: (clug-talk) IP aliasing
>> >
>> >> Anyone here have any experience with IP aliasing? I had a couple of
>> >
>> >clients on cadvision, and I had built firewalls for thier DMZ. I ran
>> >IPTABLES and had
>> >
>> >> configured the boxes with IP aliasing, so all of the IPs in the /29
>> >
>> >Cadvision provided were on the external interface of the firewall. I just
>> >did simple NAT/PAT to
>> >
>> >> manage the services on the servers behind the firewall. Now, with Telus,
>> >
>> >this, to the best of my knowledge, is no longer possible. You have to
>> >register a unique
>> >
>> >> MAC for each IP address you are using. Seeing as how all of the IP's
>> >> would
>> >
>> >return the same MAC, this is not possible on Telus's system. Does anyone
>> >have a
>> >
>> >> solution for this, or do I have to: a) run the servers with no firewall,
>> >
>> >or b) build a seperate firewall for each machine?. Maybe there are other
>> >oprions, but I'm not
>> >
>> >> sure of what they might be. I did phone Telus tech support, and they of
>> >
>> >course were no help; they basically told me to either go find another
>> >provider, or switch to
>> >
>> >> their $1500/mo fibre service.
>> >>
>> >> What I don't understand is how they expect customers to run a network
>> >
>> >properly in this kind of situation. If someone is running a Cisco PIX, or
>> > a Watchdog
>> >
>> >> Firewall, which can both be configured with "IP Pools" on the external
>> >
>> >interface, what happens to their configurations? I basically had to
>> >reconfigure the whole
>> >
>> >> network in order to get things to work properly with the new Telus
>> >
>> >service, not to mention the barrage of other problems that arised from a
>> >bunch of dumb
>> >
>> >> mistakes on their end. When I phoned and asked for support, I was pretty
>> >
>> >much led to beleive they did not care one way or another if my service was
>> >working.
>> >
>> >> Has it come down to that with Telus? It seems that they have gotten so
>> >
>> >big, with so many customers, they just don't care about a few people that
>> >might be more
>> >
>> >> than a little upset over the whole ordeal, so they'd just as soon lose
>> >
>> >them as customers. What's it to them after all? They've got hundreds of
>> >tgounsands of
>> >
>> >> customers, what's the big deal about losing a few? That is not good
>> >
>> >business. I work for an ISP here in town, TeraGo Networks, and we've
>> >currently got about 600
>> >
>> >> customers nationwide. That's mouse nuts compared to what Telus or Shaw
>> >
>> >has, but at least I take pride in knowing I care about our customer base,
>> > no matter how
>> >
>> >> small or how large the company ends up getting.
>
>




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