heh, I've never had any problems with YOU myself. In fact I think it works quite well. The ting that I like is that it downloads paths instead of the whole RPM, this makes updates go much faster. I also only have experience with the X version. You have two options, one is to look for updates and then select the ones you want to install, or let YOU do the whole thing for you. I always chose the automated approach as it made the easier. YOU will download a list of all the updates, even updates for packages that are not installed on your system. I wouldn't pay any attention to this, just wait until it has finnished and then look at the packages that it actually installed. One thing that I did notice is that not all of their mirrors are up to date. This may be why you find updates on the SuSE ftp site that are not being installed. Install all the updates, and then try the other mirrors to see if any of them install updates that were not installed on the firt go around.
Jesse Quoting Ian Bruseker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Catchy subject, non? :-) > > What I really mean is YaST Online Update. What is up with that > program? I've tried using SuSE several times in the past, only to give > up based on the (apparent) stupidity of this one program. But so many > people use SuSE, that it tells me either there are a whole lot more > tolerant people in this world than I think that are willing to put up > with this thing, or I just fundamentally misunderstand what this program > is all about. Let's go with option 2 for now. > > As best I can tell, this program is supposed to connect to an FTP site, > look at the available update rpms, and let you install the updates. > Further, it looks like it is _supposed_ to preselect items for update > that apply to your system. This seems pretty straight forward, and > pretty common (RedHat has RHN, Mandrake has Mandrake Update, etc). So, > Monday night I did an FTP install of SuSE 8.1 on an old machine. > Install went fine. Ran YOU after the setup was done, it preselected 3 > packages out of the several dozen listed that have been updated. (Oh, > this is all ncurses based, not X, the machine's a bit underpowered for > that). I let it do the updates, but I get curious - why so many > packages that _don't_ need to be updated. Some stuff is obviously > updates that could never apply to the system in question (KDE updates, > for example - not a single KDE rpm is installed - why is it showing me > this? YaST Onine _UPDATE_. Show me updates, not things that aren't > even installed on my system, but whatever, that's the subject of another > rant). So I ftp to the site that YOU had used and check the updates > there, doing much 'rpm -qa|grep' on another console. Some stuff is > already up-to-date. I'm guessing SuSE updates their main FTP install > directory so a clean install comes out fairly up-to-date. That's cool. > But there are other packages on my system that are clearly not up to the > latest version compared to the FTP site. But YOU isn't autoselecting > them when I run it. It seems when I run YOU I have flip to another > console/ ftp to the site YOU is using/check the rpms there/rpm -qa|grep > on another console/and manually select the updates in YOU. Am I missing > something here? If I have to do the ftp/check/grep thing, then what's > the point of YOU? I can download things manually and just do it that > way (I'm already FTP'd in, after all). Isn't YOU supposed to help with > this in some way, not make the process longer and more painful? Is > there a checkbox somewhere I missed? A magic chant, perhaps? > > Sorry for the long and ranty email. Abject stupidity gets me very > frustrated late at night (that includes my own abject stupidity if > someone can show me exactly what it is about YOU that makes it in any > way useful). Does anyone have any experience with/understanding of this > program that would help me make it something other than a complete waste > of my time? I'm asking here before submitting a bug to SuSE that simple > reads "YOU suck(s)". ;-) > > Ian > > >
