> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cade Cairns [mailto:cairnsc@;carbon.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: (clug-talk) <rant>
>
>
> What kind of software did you install?  Did you include X or configuration
> tools?  What sort of network apps?  One of the many things that I prefer
> about Debian is that it has a very minimalistic installation (arguably,
> the others can too) and the software is very stable.
>
I did a "minimal" Mandrake install (on the install stage where you pick
which "package groups" you want to install (KDE, GNOME, all that), I
unchecked everything.  No X, nothing fancy).  Then I went to the individual
package selection and picked a few things like SSH and, in this case,
bridge-utils, though like I said, haven't got that one running yet.  The
install ended up being about 250 meg, I think.  That was minimal enough for
me.  Left plenty of room on the 2 GB hard drive for logs and other stuff.
My only beef with a non-X install of Mandrake is as far as I know all their
drak tools are X-only.  That's why I wanted to believe in SuSE, because YaST
has an ncurses version.  But that's just laziness - I can edit config files
by hand, I'm capable that way.  As for stability, Mandrake 9.0 is the most
stable .0 release of any distro I've ever run.  I was impressed.

> It just often seems to me that the other distributions include a lot of
> crap that you really don't need, which eventually leads to system clutter
> and security vulnerabilities that shouldn't have existed in the first
> place.
>
Agreed.  That's why I went with the minimal Mandrake install, since it only
has a 2 GB drive.  On my main desktop I think I filled 2 GB with a regular
install of X, KDE, GNOME, and all the goodies, but I have an 80 GB drive
there, so I care not.  :-)

Ian

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