On Sunday 17 November 2002 16:05, you wrote: > Recently installed RH8 on a machine and as root, re-arranged various menu > items in KDE so that there were not multiple menu groups/items for things > like system settings, Internet etfc.
RH8 uses its own menu system that NO OTHER distribution uses (yet at least, and perhaps never). they tried to get the KDE project to accept their menu system late in the 3.0 devel cycle, but it was rejected due to various unadressed issues: e.g. a menu editor. that said, there is/was an oddity in KControl where it relies on the .desktop entries actually being there. if you rm -rf'd them you would no longer have any panels show up in kcontrol. there have been some safeguards put into KDE3.1 (and backported to later version of 3.0.x IIRC) that address this as best as possible, but deleting system files is often asking for problems. whch is why we have menu editors rather than rely on users to do so manually. which is why it is rather unfathomable (at least to me) why RH8 doesn't ship with one. short story: use the menu editor program. if you don't have one, use a decent distro. > Any sugestions? stop using Red Hat for desktop and workstation use? > my 2 cents: As a long time users of KDE/GNOME/Linux I have had the pleasure > of seeing things improve and change remarkably in the last 5-6 years or > more but it is little things like this, and a number of others, that will > have to "work better" before the masses familiar with Mac's and Windows put > new business users in front a Linux box. yes and no. there are many annoying and very bad problems with Win/Mac systems and yet people seem to manage to use them. i also know many people who manag to use Linux with all its foibles for day-to-day business work as well. at the same time, there are many many things that can be made better on Linux and many people are working hard to see that those things happen. If you don't hold things to too high of a standard and use distributions that actually know what they are doing (e.g. try to aide the user rather than their own busniess goals) you will probably have a better experience. Sorry to hear about your troubles, though.... Aaron J. Seigo Over At Szemir's Eating Dinner, Drinking Beer, Conversing and Playing with Linux =)
