Re: Re: Re: (clug-talk) Broken KDE Control Center

[Johnny Stork]

If my needs were only personal then I would likely go with Mandrake, which I tri boot with RH and Win2k on my main workstation. But since RH IS the most recognized corporate Linux distro, I am forced to try and keep up with their releases for the time being unless things change...(United Linux??) As far as the desktop goes though (Bluecurve) and their first attempt at a unified Gnome/KDE desktop, I am quite pleased, although I would still prefer to keep these two very different desktop environments separate. Maybe Gnome/KDE could collaborate on some common underlying menu/configuration/package-install-tools and be "unique" and "creative" with the rest? Just a thought > > > -----Original message----- > From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 11/18/2002(Mon) 08:19am > Subject: Re: Re: (clug-talk) Broken KDE Control Center > > If you're gonna reinstall, I'd suggest that you re-evaluate if you actually need Red Hat. > > They aren't a bad Distro, they're well supported, well documented, and RPMs are everywhere. > > Frequently, apps require RH (Contact, in my case). But otherwise, I'd recommend something else. I think most people on this list favor Mandrake, I'm a Gentoo guy myself. I've never used it, but based on what I've seen and heard, Suse would be my second choice. > > Kev. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Johnny Stork > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: Re: (clug-talk) Broken KDE Control Center > > > Actually I did use the menu editor and although Control Panel does actually load, there is nothing down the left panel where the icons usually go. I never deleted any system files....I certainly know better. Simply "moved" the items in the "Extras" submenus into the appropriate/matching main menu areas...all with the menu editor. > > Well, just another re-install I suppose and will have to leave the default menu as is unless someone has an idea as to whats up with this. > > > > > > > -----Original message----- > > From: "Bogi" > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: 11/17/2002(Sun) 07:54pm > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Broken KDE Control Center > > > > On Sunday 17 November 2002 16:05, you wrote: > > > Recently installed RH8 on a machine and as root, re-arranged various menu > > > items in KDE so that there were not multiple menu groups/items for things > > > like system settings, Internet etfc. > > > > RH8 uses its own menu system that NO OTHER distribution uses (yet at least, > > and perhaps never). they tried to get the KDE project to accept their menu > > system late in the 3.0 devel cycle, but it was rejected due to various > > unadressed issues: e.g. a menu editor. > > > > that said, there is/was an oddity in KControl where it relies on the .desktop > > entries actually being there. if you rm -rf'd them you would no longer have > > any panels show up in kcontrol. there have been some safeguards put into > > KDE3.1 (and backported to later version of 3.0.x IIRC) that address this as > > best as possible, but deleting system files is often asking for problems. > > > > whch is why we have menu editors rather than rely on users to do so manually. > > which is why it is rather unfathomable (at least to me) why RH8 doesn't ship > > with one. > > > > short story: use the menu editor program. if you don't have one, use a decent > > distro. > > > > > Any sugestions? > > > > stop using Red Hat for desktop and workstation use? > > > > > my 2 cents: As a long time users of KDE/GNOME/Linux I have had the pleasure > > > of seeing things improve and change remarkably in the last 5-6 years or > > > more but it is little things like this, and a number of others, that will > > > have to "work better" before the masses familiar with Mac's and Windows put > > > new business users in front a Linux box. > > > > yes and no. there are many annoying and very bad problems with Win/Mac > > systems and yet people seem to manage to use them. i also know many people > > who manag to use Linux with all its foibles for day-to-day business work as > > well. at the same time, there are many many things that can be made better on > > Linux and many people are working hard to see that those things happen. > > > > If you don't hold things to too high of a standard and use distributions that > > actually know what they are doing (e.g. try to aide the user rather than > > their own busniess goals) you will probably have a better experience. > > > > Sorry to hear about your troubles, though.... > > > > Aaron J. 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