Hey Kev, I haven't had a chance to play too much but the installer at least feels just about the same with the exception in my case of actually working :)
Not having any previous experience with SmoothWall I can't say much beyond that. Jarrod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:28 PM Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > And how does IPcop "feel" compared to Smoothwall? > > Kev. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I got IPCop > > downloaded, verified and installed. Recognized the cards right off the > bat. > > Your guess is as good as mine as to why the SmoothWall install failed. > > > > Anyway, wanted to report a success. The end config is as follows: > > > > Dell P233 > > 64 Mb SDRAM > > 1 Gb HD > > SMC Ethernet 10BaseT NIC > > RealTek 8139 10/100BaseT NIC > > > > Red & Green setup > > > > Now the fun of phasing out my old Gateway... > > > > Jarrod Major > > CLUG Treasurer > > Registered Linux User: #224211 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:15 PM > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > > > > Hey Kev, > > > > > > It appears that they have been patching it. I'm not sure when the last > > patch > > > was posted but I do have all the ones that needed to be applied to > > > SmoothWall. I think I will have to give IPcop a go for sure. It seems > that > > > these guys have taken the torch and run with it. > > > > > > I'll post my results to the list. > > > > > > Thanks again guys! > > > > > > Jarrod > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:56 PM > > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > > > > > > > The fork is called IPcop. > > > > > > > > I haven't done much more than see either, but it might help. > Smoothwall > > > GPL > > > > seemed old, the last time I checked. Not that that is a bad thing, > but > > it > > > > made me worry that they weren't really supporting it anymore. > > > > > > > > Kev. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:40 AM > > > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Doug, Jason, Kevin and Graham, > > > > > > > > > > I am using SmoothWall GPL 0.9.9 SE and I have the patches for it as > > > well. > > > > > Yes I believe it has been forked but this is the most recent stable > > GPL > > > > > version. There is a beta but I wanted to stay away from that for > now. > > > > > > > > > > Kevin I believe the Fork is one they are charging for so I don't > think > > > > that > > > > > will do. If you find something that is still GPL let me know. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we had tried setting SmoothWall up with only one NIC in at a > time > > > to > > > > > see if we could isolate it. This also did not work. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the link Doug, I may try LRP but I wanted something > robust > > > > enough > > > > > to handle some tricky stuff. The P90 and P166 only have about 32Mb > RAM > > > so > > > > > I'm not sure if they would be able to run LRP. The P233 has 64MB and > > > > appears > > > > > to be a more likely candidate. I may check this out. > > > > > > > > > > Good questions and suggestions guys. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, Graham, I too have heard that RealTek's can be flaky but I have > > > used > > > > > them in all my computers and they seem to work fine. If you want to > > > check > > > > > your DLink card to find out whether it is a RealTek card it should > be > > > > fairly > > > > > obvious, the chip should have rtl followed by either 8129 or 8139 on > > it > > > > for > > > > > the 10BaseT or 10/100BaseT respectively. I know that some cards by a > > > > > particular manufacturer spontaneously change chipmakers during the > > > course > > > > of > > > > > a NIC card's lifespan. It starts out as a RealTek then they get > > > something > > > > > else. So when you think you using a card that has good Linux support > > for > > > a > > > > > particular chipset and the manufacturer changes you are hooped. I > > always > > > > > check my hardware. The better support sites not only list the > hardware > > > but > > > > > even go so far as to list chipsets to offset this issue. > > > > > > > > > > Jarrod > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:19 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jarrod Major wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I decided to try my hand at making a home firewall/gateway. > > > SmoothWall > > > > > > >seemed to be the distro of choice. I had two computers that were > > > likely > > > > > > >candidates for the job an IBM Aptiva P166 and a Packard Bell P90. > > > Both > > > > > still > > > > > > >very serviceable. I also have a small collection of Linux-proven > > > NIC's > > > > > that > > > > > > >I thought would work just fine in this application. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >After several attempts on these two boxes, I ended up picking up > a > > > Dell > > > > > > >Pentium 233. This computer also seems to not want to take to > > > installing > > > > > > >SmoothWall. I have checked the SmoothWall site for hardware > > > > compatibility > > > > > > >and the NIC's for the most part appear to be supported. Here's a > > list > > > > of > > > > > > >what I have and the Linux driver module typically used: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >PCI > > > > > > >RealTek 8139 10/100 - rtl8139 > > > > > > >RealTek 8129 10 BaseT - ne2k-pc / ne2k / ne > > > > > > >SMC EtherPower - tulip > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ISA > > > > > > >Intel EtherExpress 16 - eexpress > > > > > > >3Com ?? - ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >All three computers will get to the Green NIC probe phase and > fail. > > > The > > > > > > >probe will not autodetect the cards. I have gone into manual mode > > and > > > > > given > > > > > > >it the appropriate module, IO and IRQ. All to no avail. These > cards > > > > have > > > > > all > > > > > > >worked under Windows not very long ago and some have even run > > > perfectly > > > > > fine > > > > > > >under other distributions of Linux. I am very careful with my > > > hardware > > > > so > > > > > I > > > > > > >cannot believe that they could all be bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The ISO I used for burning my SmoothWall disc was checked against > > the > > > > MD5 > > > > > > >Checksum and it was verified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I cannot believe that three computers would all refuse to take > this > > > > > install > > > > > > >with various NIC's in place. I enlisted Marcel's help and he > could > > > not > > > > > > >overcome my install issues either. We're both stymied. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Anyone have any experience they'd like to share or any advice? > > Thanks > > > > in > > > > > > >advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As an aside, we even attempted to throw OpenBSD on one of the > boxes > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > >crapped out almost immediately. We were pretty tired at this > point > > so > > > > we > > > > > did > > > > > > >not delve too deeply into this install. It was a floppy/FTP > > install. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jarrod Major > > > > > > >CLUG Treasurer > > > > > > >Registered Linux User: #224211 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jarrod > > > > > > I fear I may make myself look stupid here but anyway, > > > > > > I had problems with smoothwall myself using Dlink cards > > > > > > which are supposed to use realtek chips but do something weird > > > > > > with them. I found that startec S100 works well. > > > > > > Suggestion,.... Try installing with only one card ( first one then > > the > > > > > > other) > > > > > > This should at least isolate which card is causing problems, > > assuming > > > > > > this is not something you have allready tried. > > > > > > Graham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
