Thanks Jason and Ian!
I'll get those numbers for you later tonight.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Bruseker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> Jarrod,
>
> Don't know about webmin, but from the command line, "free" will show you
the
> first output, and "df" will get you the second output ("df -h" for that
> exact output style - "-h" for human readable).
>
> Ian
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jarrod Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> >
> >
> > Hey Jason,
> >
> > I hate to show my ineptitude but how do you get this? Are there commands
> > that I have to use or is this copied from the web admin?
> >
> > Keep in mind that I haven't actually put this into my network
> > yet. Or maybe
> > that's what you are after? Virgin settings sans logs.
> >
> > Jarrod
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason Van Dellen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure about IPcop,
> >
> > But here's a printout from one of my Smoothwall boxes Memory and
> > Disk Usage:
> >
> > Memory:
> >
> > total used free shared buffers
cached
> > Mem: 30736 28848 1888 18200 5648
8400
> > -/+ buffers/cache: 14800 15936
> > Swap: 17132 0 17132
> >
> >
> > Disk usage:
> >
> > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/hda4 380M 46M 315M 13% /
> > /dev/hda1 5.7M 2.3M 3.1M 42% /boot
> > /dev/hda3 97M 9.7M 82M 11% /var/log
> >
> >
> >
> > Jarrod, do you think you can do the same, I'm curious to see.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On Wednesday 27 November 2002 23:01, you wrote:
> > > Just out of curiosity, what is the size of Smoothwall and or IPcop?
> > >
> > > Kevin Anderson wrote:
> > > >And how does IPcop "feel" compared to Smoothwall?
> > > >
> > > >Kev.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > > >
> > > >>Hey Guys,
> > > >>
> > > >>Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I got IPCop
> > > >>downloaded, verified and installed. Recognized the cards right off
the
> > > >
> > > >bat.
> > > >
> > > >>Your guess is as good as mine as to why the SmoothWall install
failed.
> > > >>
> > > >>Anyway, wanted to report a success. The end config is as follows:
> > > >>
> > > >>Dell P233
> > > >>64 Mb SDRAM
> > > >>1 Gb HD
> > > >>SMC Ethernet 10BaseT NIC
> > > >>RealTek 8139 10/100BaseT NIC
> > > >>
> > > >>Red & Green setup
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the fun of phasing out my old Gateway...
> > > >>
> > > >>Jarrod Major
> > > >>CLUG Treasurer
> > > >>Registered Linux User: #224211
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:15 PM
> > > >>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > > >>
> > > >>>Hey Kev,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>It appears that they have been patching it. I'm not sure
> > when the last
> > > >>
> > > >>patch
> > > >>
> > > >>>was posted but I do have all the ones that needed to be applied to
> > > >>>SmoothWall. I think I will have to give IPcop a go for sure. It
seems
> > > >
> > > >that
> > > >
> > > >>>these guys have taken the torch and run with it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I'll post my results to the list.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Thanks again guys!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Jarrod
> > > >>>
> > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:56 PM
> > > >>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>The fork is called IPcop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I haven't done much more than see either, but it might help.
> > > >
> > > >Smoothwall
> > > >
> > > >>>GPL
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>seemed old, the last time I checked. Not that that is a bad
thing,
> > > >
> > > >but
> > > >
> > > >>it
> > > >>
> > > >>>>made me worry that they weren't really supporting it anymore.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Kev.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:40 AM
> > > >>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>Hey Doug, Jason, Kevin and Graham,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>I am using SmoothWall GPL 0.9.9 SE and I have the patches for it
as
> > > >>>
> > > >>>well.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>Yes I believe it has been forked but this is the most recent
stable
> > > >>
> > > >>GPL
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>version. There is a beta but I wanted to stay away from that for
> > > >
> > > >now.
> > > >
> > > >>>>>Kevin I believe the Fork is one they are charging for so I don't
> > > >
> > > >think
> > > >
> > > >>>>that
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>will do. If you find something that is still GPL let me know.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Yes, we had tried setting SmoothWall up with only one NIC in at a
> > > >
> > > >time
> > > >
> > > >>>to
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>see if we could isolate it. This also did not work.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Thanks for the link Doug, I may try LRP but I wanted something
> > > >
> > > >robust
> > > >
> > > >>>>enough
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>to handle some tricky stuff. The P90 and P166 only have about
32Mb
> > > >
> > > >RAM
> > > >
> > > >>>so
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>I'm not sure if they would be able to run LRP. The P233
> > has 64MB and
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>appears
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>to be a more likely candidate. I may check this out.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Good questions and suggestions guys.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>BTW, Graham, I too have heard that RealTek's can be flaky
> > but I have
> > > >>>
> > > >>>used
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>them in all my computers and they seem to work fine. If you want
to
> > > >>>
> > > >>>check
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>your DLink card to find out whether it is a RealTek card it
should
> > > >
> > > >be
> > > >
> > > >>>>fairly
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>obvious, the chip should have rtl followed by either 8129
> > or 8139 on
> > > >>
> > > >>it
> > > >>
> > > >>>>for
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>the 10BaseT or 10/100BaseT respectively. I know that some
> > cards by a
> > > >>>>>particular manufacturer spontaneously change chipmakers during
the
> > > >>>
> > > >>>course
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>of
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>a NIC card's lifespan. It starts out as a RealTek then they get
> > > >>>
> > > >>>something
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>else. So when you think you using a card that has good
> > Linux support
> > > >>
> > > >>for
> > > >>
> > > >>>a
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>particular chipset and the manufacturer changes you are hooped. I
> > > >>
> > > >>always
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>check my hardware. The better support sites not only list the
> > > >
> > > >hardware
> > > >
> > > >>>but
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>even go so far as to list chipsets to offset this issue.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Jarrod
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>>From: "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:19 AM
> > > >>>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>Jarrod Major wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>I decided to try my hand at making a home firewall/gateway.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>SmoothWall
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>>seemed to be the distro of choice. I had two computers that
were
> > > >>>
> > > >>>likely
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>>candidates for the job an IBM Aptiva P166 and a Packard Bell
P90.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Both
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>still
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>very serviceable. I also have a small collection of
Linux-proven
> > > >>>
> > > >>>NIC's
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>that
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>I thought would work just fine in this application.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>After several attempts on these two boxes, I ended up picking
up
> > > >
> > > >a
> > > >
> > > >>>Dell
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>>Pentium 233. This computer also seems to not want to take to
> > > >>>
> > > >>>installing
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>>SmoothWall. I have checked the SmoothWall site for hardware
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>compatibility
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>>and the NIC's for the most part appear to be supported. Here's
a
> > > >>
> > > >>list
> > > >>
> > > >>>>of
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>>what I have and the Linux driver module typically used:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>PCI
> > > >>>>>>>RealTek 8139 10/100 - rtl8139
> > > >>>>>>>RealTek 8129 10 BaseT - ne2k-pc / ne2k / ne
> > > >>>>>>>SMC EtherPower - tulip
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>ISA
> > > >>>>>>>Intel EtherExpress 16 - eexpress
> > > >>>>>>>3Com ?? - ??
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>All three computers will get to the Green NIC probe phase and
> > > >
> > > >fail.
> > > >
> > > >>>The
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>>probe will not autodetect the cards. I have gone into manual
mode
> > > >>
> > > >>and
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>given
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>it the appropriate module, IO and IRQ. All to no avail. These
> > > >
> > > >cards
> > > >
> > > >>>>have
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>all
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>worked under Windows not very long ago and some have even run
> > > >>>
> > > >>>perfectly
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>fine
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>under other distributions of Linux. I am very careful with my
> > > >>>
> > > >>>hardware
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>so
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>I
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>cannot believe that they could all be bad.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>The ISO I used for burning my SmoothWall disc was checked
against
> > > >>
> > > >>the
> > > >>
> > > >>>>MD5
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Checksum and it was verified.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>I cannot believe that three computers would all refuse to take
> > > >
> > > >this
> > > >
> > > >>>>>install
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>with various NIC's in place. I enlisted Marcel's help and he
> > > >
> > > >could
> > > >
> > > >>>not
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>>overcome my install issues either. We're both stymied.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Anyone have any experience they'd like to share or any advice?
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >>>>in
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>>advance.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>As an aside, we even attempted to throw OpenBSD on one of the
> > > >
> > > >boxes
> > > >
> > > >>>and
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>it
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>crapped out almost immediately. We were pretty tired at this
> > > >
> > > >point
> > > >
> > > >>so
> > > >>
> > > >>>>we
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>did
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>not delve too deeply into this install. It was a floppy/FTP
> > > >>
> > > >>install.
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>Jarrod Major
> > > >>>>>>>CLUG Treasurer
> > > >>>>>>>Registered Linux User: #224211
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>Hi Jarrod
> > > >>>>>>I fear I may make myself look stupid here but anyway,
> > > >>>>>>I had problems with smoothwall myself using Dlink cards
> > > >>>>>>which are supposed to use realtek chips but do something weird
> > > >>>>>>with them. I found that startec S100 works well.
> > > >>>>>>Suggestion,.... Try installing with only one card ( first one
then
> > > >>
> > > >>the
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>other)
> > > >>>>>>This should at least isolate which card is causing problems,
> > > >>
> > > >>assuming
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>this is not something you have allready tried.
> > > >>>>>>Graham
> >
> > --
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> >
> >
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