Thanks Jarrod. On Friday 29 November 2002 09:06, you wrote: > It looks as though they provide info on how to install it on their website. > So this means it's not there by default. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > I haven't delved deep enough yet but I haven't seen any mention of it. > > > > Jarrod > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jason Van Dellen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:33 AM > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > > > Hey Jarrod, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Do you know if it comes with a content filter like dansguardian? > > > > Jason > > > > On Thursday 28 November 2002 19:17, you wrote: > > > Hey Jason, > > > > > > Here's what I get: > > > > > > Memory: > > > > > > total used free shared buffers > > cached > > > > Mem: 63072 20024 43048 17552 2440 > > > > 11752 > > > > > -/+ buffers/cache: 5832 57240 > > > Swap: 18140 0 18140 > > > > > > > > > Disk usage: > > > > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > > /dev/harddisk4 792M 83M 670M 11% / > > > /dev/harddisk1 5.7M 1.9M 3.5M 34% /boot > > > /dev/harddisk3 198M 4.2M 183M 3% /var/log > > > > > > There you have it. So what does that mean? Good? Bad? Otherwise? > > > > > > Jarrod > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jason Van Dellen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:54 PM > > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure about IPcop, > > > > > > But here's a printout from one of my Smoothwall boxes Memory and Disk > > > Usage: > > > > > > Memory: > > > > > > total used free shared buffers > > cached > > > > Mem: 30736 28848 1888 18200 5648 > > 8400 > > > > -/+ buffers/cache: 14800 15936 > > > Swap: 17132 0 17132 > > > > > > > > > Disk usage: > > > > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > > /dev/hda4 380M 46M 315M 13% / > > > /dev/hda1 5.7M 2.3M 3.1M 42% /boot > > > /dev/hda3 97M 9.7M 82M 11% /var/log > > > > > > > > > > > > Jarrod, do you think you can do the same, I'm curious to see. > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > On Wednesday 27 November 2002 23:01, you wrote: > > > > Just out of curiosity, what is the size of Smoothwall and or IPcop? > > > > > > > > Kevin Anderson wrote: > > > > >And how does IPcop "feel" compared to Smoothwall? > > > > > > > > > >Kev. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > > > > > > >>Hey Guys, > > > > >> > > > > >>Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I got IPCop > > > > >>downloaded, verified and installed. Recognized the cards right off > > the > > > > > >bat. > > > > > > > > > >>Your guess is as good as mine as to why the SmoothWall install > > failed. > > > > > >>Anyway, wanted to report a success. The end config is as follows: > > > > >> > > > > >>Dell P233 > > > > >>64 Mb SDRAM > > > > >>1 Gb HD > > > > >>SMC Ethernet 10BaseT NIC > > > > >>RealTek 8139 10/100BaseT NIC > > > > >> > > > > >>Red & Green setup > > > > >> > > > > >>Now the fun of phasing out my old Gateway... > > > > >> > > > > >>Jarrod Major > > > > >>CLUG Treasurer > > > > >>Registered Linux User: #224211 > > > > >> > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:15 PM > > > > >>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > >> > > > > >>>Hey Kev, > > > > >>> > > > > >>>It appears that they have been patching it. I'm not sure when the > > > > last > > > > > > >>patch > > > > >> > > > > >>>was posted but I do have all the ones that needed to be applied to > > > > >>>SmoothWall. I think I will have to give IPcop a go for sure. It > > seems > > > > > >that > > > > > > > > > >>>these guys have taken the torch and run with it. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>I'll post my results to the list. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>Thanks again guys! > > > > >>> > > > > >>>Jarrod > > > > >>> > > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:56 PM > > > > >>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>The fork is called IPcop. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>I haven't done much more than see either, but it might help. > > > > > > > > > >Smoothwall > > > > > > > > > >>>GPL > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>seemed old, the last time I checked. Not that that is a bad > > thing, > > > > > >but > > > > > > > > > >>it > > > > >> > > > > >>>>made me worry that they weren't really supporting it anymore. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>Kev. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:40 AM > > > > >>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>Hey Doug, Jason, Kevin and Graham, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>I am using SmoothWall GPL 0.9.9 SE and I have the patches for it > > as > > > > > >>>well. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>Yes I believe it has been forked but this is the most recent > > stable > > > > > >>GPL > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>version. There is a beta but I wanted to stay away from that for > > > > > > > > > >now. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Kevin I believe the Fork is one they are charging for so I don't > > > > > > > > > >think > > > > > > > > > >>>>that > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>will do. If you find something that is still GPL let me know. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>Yes, we had tried setting SmoothWall up with only one NIC in at > > > > >>>>> a > > > > > > > > > >time > > > > > > > > > >>>to > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>see if we could isolate it. This also did not work. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>Thanks for the link Doug, I may try LRP but I wanted something > > > > > > > > > >robust > > > > > > > > > >>>>enough > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>to handle some tricky stuff. The P90 and P166 only have about > > 32Mb > > > > > >RAM > > > > > > > > > >>>so > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>I'm not sure if they would be able to run LRP. The P233 has 64MB > > > > and > > > > > > >>>>appears > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>to be a more likely candidate. I may check this out. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>Good questions and suggestions guys. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>BTW, Graham, I too have heard that RealTek's can be flaky but I > > > > have > > > > > > >>>used > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>them in all my computers and they seem to work fine. If you want > > to > > > > > >>>check > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>your DLink card to find out whether it is a RealTek card it > > should > > > > > >be > > > > > > > > > >>>>fairly > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>obvious, the chip should have rtl followed by either 8129 or > > > > >>>>> 8139 > > > > on > > > > > > >>it > > > > >> > > > > >>>>for > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>the 10BaseT or 10/100BaseT respectively. I know that some cards > > by > > > a > > > > > > >>>>>particular manufacturer spontaneously change chipmakers during > > the > > > > > >>>course > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>of > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>a NIC card's lifespan. It starts out as a RealTek then they get > > > > >>> > > > > >>>something > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>else. So when you think you using a card that has good Linux > > > > support > > > > > > >>for > > > > >> > > > > >>>a > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>particular chipset and the manufacturer changes you are hooped. > > > > >>>>> I > > > > >> > > > > >>always > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>check my hardware. The better support sites not only list the > > > > > > > > > >hardware > > > > > > > > > >>>but > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>even go so far as to list chipsets to offset this issue. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>Jarrod > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>>>From: "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:19 AM > > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>Jarrod Major wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>I decided to try my hand at making a home firewall/gateway. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>SmoothWall > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>seemed to be the distro of choice. I had two computers that > > were > > > > > >>>likely > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>candidates for the job an IBM Aptiva P166 and a Packard Bell > > P90. > > > > > >>>Both > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>still > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>very serviceable. I also have a small collection of > > Linux-proven > > > > > >>>NIC's > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>that > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>I thought would work just fine in this application. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>After several attempts on these two boxes, I ended up picking > > up > > > > > >a > > > > > > > > > >>>Dell > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>Pentium 233. This computer also seems to not want to take to > > > > >>> > > > > >>>installing > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>SmoothWall. I have checked the SmoothWall site for hardware > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>compatibility > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>>>and the NIC's for the most part appear to be supported. Here's > > a > > > > > >>list > > > > >> > > > > >>>>of > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>>>what I have and the Linux driver module typically used: > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>PCI > > > > >>>>>>>RealTek 8139 10/100 - rtl8139 > > > > >>>>>>>RealTek 8129 10 BaseT - ne2k-pc / ne2k / ne > > > > >>>>>>>SMC EtherPower - tulip > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>ISA > > > > >>>>>>>Intel EtherExpress 16 - eexpress > > > > >>>>>>>3Com ?? - ?? > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>All three computers will get to the Green NIC probe phase and > > > > > > > > > >fail. > > > > > > > > > >>>The > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>probe will not autodetect the cards. I have gone into manual > > mode > > > > > >>and > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>given > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>it the appropriate module, IO and IRQ. All to no avail. These > > > > > > > > > >cards > > > > > > > > > >>>>have > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>all > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>worked under Windows not very long ago and some have even run > > > > >>> > > > > >>>perfectly > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>fine > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>under other distributions of Linux. I am very careful with my > > > > >>> > > > > >>>hardware > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>so > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>I > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>cannot believe that they could all be bad. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>The ISO I used for burning my SmoothWall disc was checked > > against > > > > > >>the > > > > >> > > > > >>>>MD5 > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>>>Checksum and it was verified. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>I cannot believe that three computers would all refuse to take > > > > > > > > > >this > > > > > > > > > >>>>>install > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>with various NIC's in place. I enlisted Marcel's help and he > > > > > > > > > >could > > > > > > > > > >>>not > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>overcome my install issues either. We're both stymied. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>Anyone have any experience they'd like to share or any advice? > > > > >> > > > > >>Thanks > > > > >> > > > > >>>>in > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>>>advance. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>As an aside, we even attempted to throw OpenBSD on one of the > > > > > > > > > >boxes > > > > > > > > > >>>and > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>it > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>crapped out almost immediately. We were pretty tired at this > > > > > > > > > >point > > > > > > > > > >>so > > > > >> > > > > >>>>we > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>did > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>not delve too deeply into this install. It was a floppy/FTP > > > > >> > > > > >>install. > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>Jarrod Major > > > > >>>>>>>CLUG Treasurer > > > > >>>>>>>Registered Linux User: #224211 > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>Hi Jarrod > > > > >>>>>>I fear I may make myself look stupid here but anyway, > > > > >>>>>>I had problems with smoothwall myself using Dlink cards > > > > >>>>>>which are supposed to use realtek chips but do something weird > > > > >>>>>>with them. I found that startec S100 works well. > > > > >>>>>>Suggestion,.... Try installing with only one card ( first one > > then > > > > > >>the > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>other) > > > > >>>>>>This should at least isolate which card is causing problems, > > > > >> > > > > >>assuming > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>this is not something you have allready tried. > > > > >>>>>>Graham > > > > -- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Jason Van Dellen > > Trilogy-Net Inc. > > #4; 1935 - 27Ave NE > > Calgary, AB > > T2E 7E4 > > > > www.trilogy-net.com > > Phone (403) 219-8868 > > Fax (403) 219-8860 > > Cell (403) 815-1626 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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