It's just as important to patch internal boxes if not more important.  80
percent of network attacks come from the inside, a firewall and patched
external boxes do you no good if someone takes it down from the inside.

Trevor

> To which I again point at the Mandrake 9 install thread.
>
> Neither system is perfect period.
>
> Back to the platform standardization issue, I only have 1 platform to
> test across.  Compaq deskpro EVO 1.7 w/ 512 Megs of RAM.  Other boxes
> are non-production, or whatever.
>
> Further, I generally do not need to immediately apply patches.  Sure, if
> Apache has some major issue come out, then I'll patch it on external
> facing boxes.  But I can wait a while before patching a BIND
> vulnerability on a box that runs internally only.  Others can find
> problems for me, thanks...
>
> Kev.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jesse Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work
>
>
>> Quoting Kevin Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> > Would you install something onto a production box without testing it
> first?
>> > I test everything before it goes into production.  Therefore,
>> actually emerging the app doesn't worry me, because I know it will
>> compile correctly,
>> > and install in my environment.  I've already done it in test.
>>
>> There is a difference between you testing a package for a couple
>> hours,
> and
>> having it tested by a distributor. Before a version of Red
> Hat/MDK/whatever
>> comes out, the packages are tested by the author, in the lab, in alpha
> tests, in
>> beta tests, etc. Then once the distro. has his the market it is tested
>> by thousands of other people. I love having a system with the latest
>> and
> greatest
>> software but there are drawbacks. Just because a new version is
>> released
> doesn't
>> mean that it has less bugs than the old version. It could have a new
>> bug
> that
>> you missed, and then fucks up your server. Where as someone using Red
>> Hat
> 7.3 or
>> 8.0 still gets the security updates but also has the security of
>> knowing
> that
>> their packages have been tested by thousands of people, and have a
>> better
> chance
>> of working properly than something that was released yesterday and is
> running in
>> your production environment today.
>>
>> Jesse



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