Fair enough, but the number of potential attackers is much lower.  Most
things called internal attacks shouldn't be.

Disgruntled ex-employees whose network access hasn't been revoked.
Accidental moving/deleting of files.
Executives having access to things they don't need "because they're the
boss" deleting stuff.
Etc.

These are labelled attacks, but they aren't.

Kev.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor Lauder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work


> It's just as important to patch internal boxes if not more important.  80
> percent of network attacks come from the inside, a firewall and patched
> external boxes do you no good if someone takes it down from the inside.
>
> Trevor
>
> > To which I again point at the Mandrake 9 install thread.
> >
> > Neither system is perfect period.
> >
> > Back to the platform standardization issue, I only have 1 platform to
> > test across.  Compaq deskpro EVO 1.7 w/ 512 Megs of RAM.  Other boxes
> > are non-production, or whatever.
> >
> > Further, I generally do not need to immediately apply patches.  Sure, if
> > Apache has some major issue come out, then I'll patch it on external
> > facing boxes.  But I can wait a while before patching a BIND
> > vulnerability on a box that runs internally only.  Others can find
> > problems for me, thanks...
> >
> > Kev.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jesse Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 11:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work
> >
> >
> >> Quoting Kevin Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>
> >> > Would you install something onto a production box without testing it
> > first?
> >> > I test everything before it goes into production.  Therefore,
> >> actually emerging the app doesn't worry me, because I know it will
> >> compile correctly,
> >> > and install in my environment.  I've already done it in test.
> >>
> >> There is a difference between you testing a package for a couple
> >> hours,
> > and
> >> having it tested by a distributor. Before a version of Red
> > Hat/MDK/whatever
> >> comes out, the packages are tested by the author, in the lab, in alpha
> > tests, in
> >> beta tests, etc. Then once the distro. has his the market it is tested
> >> by thousands of other people. I love having a system with the latest
> >> and
> > greatest
> >> software but there are drawbacks. Just because a new version is
> >> released
> > doesn't
> >> mean that it has less bugs than the old version. It could have a new
> >> bug
> > that
> >> you missed, and then fucks up your server. Where as someone using Red
> >> Hat
> > 7.3 or
> >> 8.0 still gets the security updates but also has the security of
> >> knowing
> > that
> >> their packages have been tested by thousands of people, and have a
> >> better
> > chance
> >> of working properly than something that was released yesterday and is
> > running in
> >> your production environment today.
> >>
> >> Jesse
>
>
>
>
>

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