Well, 2.4.20 has a buggy ext3 module, so you might not want to run it anyways. And upgrading that kernel is not required, if you want to, do it from the source, and make your own rpm to distribute to your other servers. The same would be true when XFree86 4.3 comes out, if you really need that new version, you can maybe find a package or you could wait for the next version of your distribution, or you could just make your own package. Gentoo might have a emerge file the same day, but that's why their packages can so often be broken in certain cases, they're not really tested.
Le 2 D�cembre 2002 13:11, vous avez �crit : > > RPM. what's your point? > > Point me at an RPM to install kernel 2.4.20 onto RH 7.0. This is actually > a serious question as well as an effort to make my point. > > > > Verified, Tested, Integrated and certified like MKD9 which you > > recommended > > > > against because it doesn't install, and can't run on the person's box? > > > > *laughs* wow, nice one. so because there was a particular hardware > > problem with one particular version of one particular distribution, it > > means that verifying and integrating binary software applications isn't a > > meaningful advantage. > > > > what a load of crap. > > Why? You tried to make it sound like a binary distro means you don't need > to worry about problem at install time. I disagree. Posts on this board > back up what 've said. Binary installs offer no assurance than a > particular package will work on a given system. Neither does Source based. > > > most linux systems have thousands of discrete bits of software that > > interoperate with each other on many levels (libraries, IPC, network > > comm, local file manip as in "configuration files"). these interactions > > can be complex and even non-obvious. depending on how you build those > > various > > pieces > > > of software can determine how [well | if] they work with each other. the > > rest should be obvious from there ... > > This is less an issue when there is simply less crap on the servers. > Again, I'd give the advantage here to minimalist builds. Gentoo is an > example of a source, Debian would be an example of binary. Either will be > easier to admin that a box with unneccessary stuff installed everywhere. > > > for the last time kevin: i'm not talking about delivery (rpm, apt, > > emerge, ports) i'm talking about source vs binary. you are having a hard > > time differentiating between those concepts, i understand, but they are > > different. > > > you could deliver all your source via RPM and tweak & build from there, > > or you could deliver all your binaries via emerge. that isn't the point > > at > > all. > > I'm articulating it poorly. Sorry. I do understand the difference. > > > i test the configurations and put it under load, yes. fortunately i don't > > have > > > to do anything else because all the rest of the integration needs and > > requirements are taken care of for me by the distribution company i > > bought > > it > > > from. > > Like Microsoft has done? Mandrake as I've mentioned before? > > This isn't a slam on either company, or red hat, or anyone else. I simply > think that a given product failure is not avoided simply by having a > central authority do the compilation. > > > wow, you either have no idea what software integration testing involves > > or > > you > > > spend a LOT of time verifying your builds. i'm guessing the former. > > Probably the latter. This network goes totally live in April. Some > aspects are already being tested. I think I test more than most people. > > > maybe it doesn't matter to you, maybe it works "good enough" for you... > > great. > > > but let me use an anology: just beause you haven't been killed not > > wearing > > a > > > seat belt yet doesn't mean that someone else may be smarter because they > > wear > > > a seat belt in preperation for a crash. it also doesn't mean that seat > > belts > > > don't save lives. > > Do you do maintenance cheaks on your auto, or simply trust that the > manufacturer built it correctly? > > > i deffinitely believe that gentoo works for you. but that doesn't mean > > it's a > > > smart way to go in general. > > I'll wait for a response to the RH8 vs Gentoo post. > > > you do know that you can do a network install of just about any distro > > out there, right? > > Not sure. I know I can install RH across a network. But I don't think I > can install RH where it checks RPMfind, or RHN, or whatever to verify that > every package it installs is the most current one. I'd love to be wrong > about that though... > > Kev.
