Actually, yes I can.... I can't write it though but I can read it just
fine.  I spent a couple years in France.

> est'ce que tu parle francais?
>
> Kev.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trevor Lauder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work
>
>
>> Yes, we already agreed that you can run the system just fine like
>> this. The point still remains that you have not booted your installed
>> kernel :)
>>
>> > What the Caldera distro does (used to?) is since the installer uses
>> the same  kernel, once installation was done it would simply change
>> runlevel and you'd  be done, no rebooting.  The only difference is
>> that the kernel was loaded off  the cd instead of the hard disk,
>> which makes 0 difference when the system is  running.
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 2 D�cembre 2002 11:28, vous avez �crit :
>> >> Yes, but you are still missing the point.  You are not running your
>> system until you reboot and use your bootstrapped kernel.  It
>> doesn't matter if the kernel you are running from the CD is the
>> same as the one in your /boot, you still aren't' running it.  Even
>> with user mode Linux you need to reboot the virtual machine if you
>> upgraded the kernel.  The most any Linux distro can offer you is 0
>> reboots *during* installation.  They all will require you to reboot
>> at the end to load your installation *fully* and it will always be
>> this way unless the kernel developers can find a way to reload a
>> running kernel (Not the modules, the kernel itself) similar to how
>> you can reload init (kill -HUP 1).
>> >>
>> >> Trevor
>> >>
>> >> > You could use user mode linux, that would work
>> >> > It, in relative terms, is a kernel running sub kernels.
>> >> > Not what I had in mind... but hrm.
>> >> >
>> >> > What I was thinking is using a basic kernel, and having that
>> >> majority of what you use as modules. Loading a kernel from a CD,
>> Floppy, TFTP, NFS, etc... doesn't mean anything, as long as they're
>> the same from the Installer and the installation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Pivot root, and you're good to go.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've installed X, and KDE in a chroot, it ran fine, I could even
>> >> load moduals. That is not all that different.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:34:08 -0700
>> >> >
>> >> > Kevin Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> You've got my curiosity now...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How do I load a new kernel into a running system?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This could be REALLY neat...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kev.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Richard Jenniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:47 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Modules, pivot_root, changing runlevels and or killing
>> processes.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > With those combined, you could install, and use the OS without
>> >> >>
>> >> >> restarting.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 01:16:24 -0700 (MST)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Trevor Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > > Comparing windows to Gentoo is not fair at all to Linux.
>> >> Gentoo
>> >> >>
>> >> >> compiles
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > itself as it installs.  You can't say that Linux reboots
>> once
>> >> >>
>> >> >> during install either.  This d



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