Linux support is more community minded that anything else.  There's no phone
number (generally) for someone to call for assistance.  You'd ask questions
here, and we'd help where we could.

For non-tech people, especially frustrated non-tech people, which is the
category you're moving into (from the sound of previous posts), I'd
recommend Knoppix.  It's a non-committal way to test out Linux.  You load
your windows machine up, download it, burn it, put it into your CDR, and
reboot.  When it comes up, it'll be running a completed Linux distro.  You
can play with it a bit, and see if it's "for you" from there.  If it is,
then I'd suggest starting with Red Hat, Mandrake or Suse.  Red Hat is the
best documented, both in print, and on the web, PLUS, almost every Linux
user has seen Red Hat at one time or another so I'd put them first.
Mandrake is probably most common distro among the people on this mailing
list, so it'll be the easiest for people to help you with, Put that second.
I've heard lots of good things about Suse, and it's by far the most popular
distro in Europe, so I'd say that would be my third choice.

I'll bite on what reads like a troll, but is probably just frustration.

Non-technical people should use Linux because once running, it just works.
Technical or not, you're here because you're dissatisfied with Windows.
Linux has a learning curve, you should understand that right off the bat.
But the truth is, once you've learnt the basics, you'll have a system that
you like better because it doesn't make the assumption that you are a moron.
Microsoft's Paperclip helper might be fine the first time he interrupts your
work; in fact he might even be helpful; but after about the 10th, you want
him gone, but you can't get rid of him (unless you pay for an upgrade to a
different version of Office).  Linux doesn't hold you hand right off the
bat.  You will end up asking for help here or somewhere like this.  But in
the end, YOU will know how to do the work, you won't rely on some idiotic,
irritating paperclip to do it for you.  That might seem inconsequential, but
it isn't.  The paperclip is meant to be helpful, and it often is.  I'll
ignore the annoying side for now, the real problem is that it (and most
Windows products) are overly idiot friendly.  This is great in the
beginning, but it ends up being a bad thing.  Think of it like this.  If you
were wanting to learn chess, and I offered to help, that would be gsound
great.  Initially, I'd help by advising you on all your moves.  After a few
games though, you'd want to make the moves on your own, and my making every
move on your behalf would become annoying.  After LOTS of games, you
wouldn't want to learn about chess because every time you played, I did
everything for you.  It would be better for you to be able to make your own
moves, even if it meant mistakes, because learning is as important as
winning.  Windows has lots of Wizards looking over your shoulder.  Linux has
few if any.

Linux means that if you need help, you need to turn to other people, and ask
for help.  Some people find that hard at first, but the reality is, we were
all new once, and none of us know it all.  In the end, you will know more
you would if a wizard helped.  That sounds a bit eliteist, but it isn't.
Knowing Linux will actually help you learn Windows, Mac's OS X, Your
PlayStation, and almost every other computer you'll encounter.  The reason
is that rather than learning to click in the right place at the right time,
you'll learn how the underlying pieces fit together and interact.  If you
know how to point and click, you need to relearn it every time you change
OSes.

Lastly, non-technical people generally underestimate themselves.  I'm sure
you can run a TV/VCR/Microwave/Playstation/Calculator/Cell Phone/etc without
any problem.  People think they don't know how to work a computer because
they place the blame in the wrong place when their PC crashes.  Keep this in
mind.  The problem is the PC, not you.  That includes Linux.  There will be
times that it crashes, or is too difficult or whatever, that's a problem
with the Operating System, not with the user.  Those other computers don't
crash, why does your PC?

I'd answer, but this is long enough already.

Kev.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: (clug-talk) should non-techies avoid Linux?


>
> After an unsuccessful weekend struggle to get Red Hat 8 working properly,
I'd like to hear the views of this technically adept group on whether
non-technical people
> should attempt Linux at all?
>
> Should someone who doesn't have the technical aptitude to do his own
troubleshooting avoid Linux until it becomes less problem-prone (e.g.,
Jesse's recently posted
> headache with Mandrake 9.0?
>
> If your answer is "go for it anyway," which distro would you recommend?
>
> And do you have a phone number I can call when I run into trouble?
>
> Pat Roche
>
>
>
>

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