Just for interest you can use mutt's and autoview to pipe HTML mails through links before viewing them. Makes it a lot less annoying :) I still agree though that HTML mail is rather unnecessary.

Jeff

Myles Green wrote:

People, please, please.... HTML is for web pages and plain old ASCII belongs in email. I have to switch from my usual client (Mutt) to Kmail (or worse) just to read these... and so early in my morning too ;-)

Not picking on you in specific Dan, it's just that it was about the 4th one I encountered already today.

/me climbs back under my rock

Myles

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<big><big>Hi Dave,<br>
<br>
It sounds like it has not detected or setup the lan card properly.
You could do a few things to help us determine the trouble.<br>
1. Get into a Knoppix root concole by keying Ctrl-Alt-F3. <br>
2. Enter the command ifconfig to see how eht0 "your Lan card" is
configured. It should appear something like this:</big></big><br>
<br>
<br>
[root@dan dan]# ifconfig<br>
eth0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Link encap:Ethernet&nbsp; HWaddr
00:E0:7D:D8:0B:26<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; inet
addr:192.168.1.11&nbsp; Bcast:192.168.1.255&nbsp;
Mask:255.255.255.0<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UP BROADCAST
NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST&nbsp; MTU:1500&nbsp; Metric:1<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RX
packets:33573 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TX
packets:36358 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; collisions:23
txqueuelen:100<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RX
bytes:34913172 (33.2 Mb)&nbsp; TX bytes:4820249 (4.5 Mb)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Interrupt:11
Base address:0xa000<br> <br>
lo&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Link encap:Local
Loopback<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
inet addr:127.0.0.1&nbsp; Mask:255.0.0.0<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UP LOOPBACK
RUNNING&nbsp; MTU:16436&nbsp; Metric:1<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RX
packets:2586 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TX
packets:2586 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; collisions:0
txqueuelen:0<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RX
bytes:138424 (135.1 Kb)&nbsp; TX bytes:138424 (135.1 Kb)<br> <br>
<big><big>2. If eth0 does not appear in the lineup we'll have to run
the command lsmod which will render something like this:<br>
</big></big><br>
[root@dan dan]# lsmod<br>
Module&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Size&nbsp; Used
by&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tainted: P<br>
binfmt_misc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5696&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>
parport_pc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp
;&nbsp;&nbsp; 21672&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; (autoclean)<br>
lp&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
6720&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (autoclean)<br>
parport&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 23936&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; (autoclean)
[parport_pc lp]<br>
agpgart&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 31840&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; (autoclean)<br>
NVdriver&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
nbsp;&nbsp; 1065920&nbsp; 10&nbsp; (autoclean)<br>
sr_mod&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 15096&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;
(autoclean) (unused)<br>
floppy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 49340&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;
(autoclean)<br>
snd-seq-midi&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
sp;&nbsp; 3680&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (autoclean) (unused)<br>
snd-emu10k1-synth&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4220&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (autoclean) (unused)<br>
snd-emux-synth&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
25532&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1-synth]<br>
snd-seq-midi-emul&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4880&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (autoclean) [snd-emux-synth]<br>
snd-seq-virmidi&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
2888&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (autoclean) [snd-emux-synth]<br>
snd-seq-oss&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp; 26176&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (unused)<br>
snd-seq-midi-event&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3208&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp; [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-oss]<br>
snd-seq&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 33264&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp; [snd-seq-midi
snd-emux-synth snd-seq-midi-emul snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-oss
snd-seq-midi-event]<br>
snd-pcm-oss&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp; 36932&nbsp;&nbsp; 0<br>
snd-mixer-oss&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
bsp; 9016&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-pcm-oss]<br>
snd-emu10k1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp; 56592&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-emu10k1-synth]<br>
snd-pcm&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 55808&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-pcm-oss
snd-emu10k1]<br>
snd-timer&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 9964&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-seq
snd-pcm]<br>
snd-util-mem&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
sp;&nbsp; 1280&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-emux-synth snd-emu10k1]<br>
snd-rawmidi&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp; 12864&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-virmidi
snd-emu10k1]<br>
snd-seq-device&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3836&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-seq-midi snd-emu10k1-synth
snd-emux-synth snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi]<br>
snd-ac97-codec&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
25508&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-emu10k1]<br>
snd-hwdep&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3840&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd-emu10k1]<br>
snd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 24804&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp; [snd-seq-midi snd-emux-synth snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-oss
snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-emu10k1
snd-pcm snd-timer snd-util-mem snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device
snd-ac97-codec snd-hwdep]<br>
soundcore&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3780&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; [snd]<br>
nfsd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 66576&nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp;
(autoclean)<br>
lockd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 46480&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;
(autoclean) [nfsd]<br>
sunrpc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 60188&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;
(autoclean) [nfsd lockd]<br>
af_packet&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 13000&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; (autoclean)<br>
ip_vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 74328&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;
(autoclean)<br>
8139too&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14472&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; (autoclean)<br>
mii&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
1152&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (autoclean) [8139too]<br>
supermount&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp
;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14340&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; (autoclean)<br>
ext3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 73736&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp;
(autoclean)<br>
jbd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 38608&nbsp;&nbsp;
3&nbsp; (autoclean) [ext3]<br>
ide-cd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 28712&nbsp;&nbsp; 0<br>
cdrom&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 26848&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;
[sr_mod ide-cd]<br>
ide-scsi&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8212&nbsp;&nbsp; 0<br>
scsi_mod&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 90372&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp; [sr_mod
ide-scsi]<br>
usb-uhci&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 21676&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (unused)<br>
usbcore&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 58304&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; [usb-uhci]<br>
rtc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
6560&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; (autoclean)<br>
reiserfs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 169776&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br> [root@dan dan]#<br>
<br>
<br>
<big><big>When you have completed this, please jot down the names of
the modules and post this back to us on the board.<br>
<br>
Thanx, Dan<br>
<br>
<br>
</big></big><br>
<br>
Dave Bourassa wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Hi
Chris, <br> <br>
Thanx 4 the reply and the info.&nbsp; Yeah, when the knoppix cd is
not in the drive and it boots normally into Windows ME (ugh), it has
no problem getting on the net.&nbsp; It's only when we boot it off
the knoppix cd that we can't get access.&nbsp; I tried obvious url's
like <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.microsoft.com";>www.microsoft.com</a> etc and no
luck.&nbsp; If the trouble was in the windows platform I'd know what to do, but I'm still really green when it comes to linux.&nbsp; I
didn't try a ping or anything, because it was my impression that it
was just not going to work as the connection failure I suspected was
in the recognizing the adsl modem and I didn't know where to start
with trouble shooting it.&nbsp; I probably won't be able to get any
more work done on this, as they live out of town, and therefore it
becomes too cumbersome to try to solve it, but If I had some ideas
as to where to look for the next time I was out there, that would
help. <br> <br>
Thanx for the response, and Happy New Year to all. <br>
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- <br> Chris Wallace wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Dave, <br>
<br>
The only real proviso with Telus is that you have to "register" the
MAC <br> of the connecting machine with their silly little service
(you receive a <br> private class A address until this is completed.
<br>
<br>
Of course, I'm assuming that this was previously done in windows from
<br> the sounds of it, so that would leave basic IP
troubleshooting...i.e. <br> can you obtain a public IP addy from
DHCP? Can you ping the gateway? Can you ping a known internet host
by IP or FQDN?, etc. <br>
<br>
I've got Telus DSL service and have had no probs with getting on-line
<br> with Knoppix, so it's not the distro ;-) <br>
<br>
Best of luck with it. <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
Chris <br>
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