Exactly :)  I have tried this before and unless you go out and buy a NIC
and it happens to support this then it will not work.  The NIC and hub can
tell if you have plugged in a crossover cable and it will not establish a
link, unless you are using NICs and hubs that can do what Kevin is talking
about.

Kevin Anderson said:
> Agreed.
>
> There are some newer NICs (I've heard Apple uses them) and switches that
> "autodetect" if they should be a crossover of straight through on the
> jack, but that's it.  And i'd bet a significant chunk of cash that
> nobody will EVER put this level of tech into a lowly little hub (which
> is what he specifically mentioned).  If I'm wrong, and they do, I'd also
> bet money that the purchasers are also the same people that by  fiber to
> TP transcievers so they can plug their "fiber to the desktop"
> workstations into this little hub.  :)
>
> Kev.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cade Cairns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) crossover cables
>
>
>> YOU MUST BE INSANE! ELECTRICITY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!
>>
>> Just kidding. I cant imagine any reason for the transmit pins to
>> suddenly for some reason change, can anybody who responded with (or
>> know) prove me wrong?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Cade Cairns
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Garth Meisel wrote:
>>
>> > OK, hold up here.  Everybody is going bezerk and all I asked was one
> simple
>> > question.  I'll ask it again.
>> >
>> > Will a hub perform properly with all crossover cables instead of
>> regular (straight thru) cables?
>> >
>> > This has nothing to do with what the normal is or how things SHOULD
>> be
> done in
>> > an ideal world.  I just want to know if the hub and everything would
> function
>> > with crossovers everywhere instead of regular straight thru cables.
> That
>> > means a crossover feeding the hub and crossovers to the systems
>> hooked
> to the
>> > hub.
>> >


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