Hit <DEL> or which ever key you need to press to get into the bios. In the bios you should have some more information like the make, model number and such. Then google the moel number and see if that produces a flash image or at lease the company you need to go to. The odd sounds that you mentioned sugests that you knocked something loose. I whould check that before buying the battery and flashing the bios. Check the cards to see if everything is in place and clean the machine... in the mean-time findout where that sound is coming from... it might be the cause. If this fails pull cards out and put then back in, this makes sure that the conections are good with all the cards. Then I would go buy the battery... I too like to conserve money where possible.

Disclaimer: These suggestions are based on the experiences of the sended, any or all information may or may not work for this particualar situation. Technologically sound presence is suggested.


Jason


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I'll be buying a new bios battery today, and a can of compressed air... i'll spend a hour or so taking out all the cards/ram/cables... and blowing dust off EVERYTHING....

but, the one thing arises.
i dont know who made my mobo (lost manual in a flood of basement)... so how can i find 
out who did... and see if i can flash the bios.

also, when i took the bios battery out... and rebooted... it stops on a cmos error...

the first time i booted it... i did ssh in, and there were no bad characters in the ssh side of things... so im not sure what is making those char's appear.

-- nathan

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----- Original Message -----
From: Marcel Lecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, April 3, 2003 10:07 am
Subject: RE: (clug-talk) NEED HELP, bad problem!



Hi Nathan,

I haven't a chance to go over all the comments in detail so I might be
repeating things others have already proposed (in which case, sorry in
advance).


It sounds to me like it could also be bad power. Anything chancy on thecircuit?. Might be worth hooking up on a different circuit before putting
the gloves on and "going in".


I'm also always suspicious of hardware that suddenly doesn't work after a
move. Something might have been rattled loose in transit (same might apply
to the monitor). Try remove and reconnect all plugs connectors, RAM, cards,
IDE cables, etc. (sounds like you've already done a lot of that though). Try
a different monitor too (or ssh into it from elsewhere and see if it's doing
what it should).


hope that helps.

Marcel




-----Original Message-----
From: nathan wainwright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (clug-talk) NEED HELP, bad problem!


okay, just recently moved... and finally got shaw cable hooked up.


so today i decided to reconnect the router, and webserver....

booted up the server.

the screen... while readaable... will "switch" characters at random... statically... ie... when it boots up... and does ram test... it spells things odd... but not the same everytime....

when going into linux same thing... it just over prints different charcters... does this mean bad bios... or what?

and is there a way to fix it... im a student, so don't reallyhave tons of cash to get it fixed.

course i do have two powermacs... any ideas if yellowdog linux will run apache, perl php?

-- nathan



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