Shawn said:
> Thanks for the tips Trevor.  The "make mrproper" did the trick.  I am now
> able to access the network as expected.
> I now have Bind, Postfix, Cyrus-sasl, Cyrus-Imap, and Apache on the
> server.... slowly working through the emerge routines and compiles to get
> my
> server up to par.  A few more days and I should be able to replace my Red
> Hat server.

Great to hear :)  'make clean' cleans out a lot the compiled junk before
it goes ahead and recompiles it but it doesn't get everything and
sometimes a change you made in the .config conflicts with something left
behind from the previous compile.  A 'make mrproper' will clean out
*everything* including the .config so that the source tree is just like
new and you have to start from scratch including the make
<something>config part.  If it's a problem with something conflicting with
a previous compile, then that step will solve the problem :)

>
> Funny thing is, now that I've found the fix for my particular problem, I'm
> seeing the solution posted in numerous locations on the Gentoo forums.
> When
> I searched through them before I fixed my issue, I had trouble finding the
> references I needed...  oh well, hindsite is always 20/20.  Either that,
> or
> I know how to better word the question now, so can see the answers
> easier.....

Yeah, if you can't find solutions on the Gentoo forums or Google, try
making the query as small as you can (Ie, in this case i386_ksyms.ver), or
post to this list :)

> My thoughts on Gentoo thus far - Takes much longer to install, and can try
> the patience of anyone who hasn't had to wait for compiles before, but
> otherwise, the install is very easy (if you follow the guide), and has an
> excellent community for support.

Yeah, you should try it on a desktop :)  Most things you use on a server
compile pretty fast which is why my PII server is fine with Gentoo,
however compiling Qt & KDE really tests your patience :)  What speed of
computer are you compiling this on?  I compiled OpenOffice just last night
and it took well over 14 hours to compile by itself on a P4 1.5GHz with
768 Megs of PC133 RAM.  The Gentoo community is pretty good for support,
the forums are really great and I think in this case they are better then
the mailing lists.  I'm on 6 of the Gentoo mailing lists and I have yet to
post for any help on them, I've always been able to solve my problems by
searching the forums :)

> Also, I'm finding that by working through
> the install guides, and editing the required config files, I'm learning
> MUCH
> MUCH more about getting linux running than I ever did with Suse, Mandrake
> or
> Red Hat.  And I'm not finding it any tougher than figuring out a gui
> interface for managing a server (or it's services).  The menuconfig for
> the
> kernel configuration helped a lot.

Yeah, the Gentoo install guide is one of the best ones out there.  In case
you didn't see these: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/docs.xml#top  Those
are some more good howto guides for Gentoo on various subjects.

> If I had to build the .config file by
> hand, the process would have been much more daunting.  On the otherhand,
> it's now 4 days after I started, and I still don't have a server I can put
> into production yet.  So, the install process does take longer - but I can
> see the benifits of a bit of patience.  The server is already performing
> faster than my RH installation (judging by the time it takes to boot and
> shut down). And I have much less "fluff" - less wasted space on files I
> will
> never use.

Hehe, I doubt even the kernel developers could create a .config by hand. 
Modify, yes, but not write it out :)  If some of them can, then maybe they
need to get out more often hehe.

>
> Thanks again Trevor, and Kevin.

No problem :)

>
> Shawn


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