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Jason,


I'm not even going to touch on the OSS interjection you made since I don't think it 
has anything to do with what I was speaking about and is a
slippery slope to nowhere.

That said, I purposely used the term 'elective' to denote that it is not a 
requirement, nor should anything become 'policy' by any means, but rather
to have in place something that would offer incentive in the way of financial rewards 
to the consumer, at the same time benefitting the online
community by increasing the knowledge level of the common net user. The training and 
cert could be supplied by an ISP and taken over a weekend, or
perhaps by the likes of the IEEE, W3C or an educational institution (just examples). 
It would not even need to be a tough standard or any standard at
all really, a simple introduction to the web and email by security minded 
professionals would suffice.

I do not condone any sort of lockout from the Internet by governments, corporate 
entities or any sort of 'official' group. In fact, I don't don't even
believe this is possible or morally justifiable. I believe if given proper incentive 
however, consumers will choose a safer Internet (this wouldn't
even be an altruistic gesture) and I imagine that any ISP in the world would prefer 
customers who can operate in cyberspace safely compared to what we
have now.

It's time for all users of this technology to adopt as much responsibility as the 
lowest common denominator is capable of and no longer allow
ignorance to be accepted as an excuse (if it ever was).


Jacob


Jason Hayes - HHC wrote:
|>Despite what some libertarians might say (and I would like to be able
|
| to
|
|>agree with them) the Net is by no means a right that should blindly be
|
| had
|
|>by all, it can be a very dangerous tool and should require a minimal
|>amount of knowledge to have access, knowledge that obviously many
|
| people
|
|>don't have.
|
|
| On that note, Open Source should be banned because it threatens the very
| nature of the free-market (just ask SCO, they'll tell you). Despite what
| some libertarians might say (and I would like to be able to agree with
| them) coding and software development is by no means a right that should
| blindly be had by all, it can be a very dangerous tool and should
| require a minimal amount of knowledge before being allowed to code,
| knowledge that obviously many people don't have.
|
| Switch the words again to include, tech consulting, networking and
| infrastructure development, etc. etc. etc.
|
| My question then is; who sets the standard? Who sets the cost of getting
| your license and renewing it? Bill Gates? Jean Chretien? Add names to
| the list as you see fit.
|
| Who wants to pay for the creation of the new board / governing
| association / government department to handle this certification?
|
| Sorry Jacob, nothing personal but as a libertarian, I just cannot go
| along with what you are suggesting. (Insert the caveat that I do not see
| anyone as having a "right" to the Net unless they pay their bills to
| their ISP, find someone who will give them net access for free, or they
| construct their own link to the Net.)
|
| I don't need Bill, Jean, or some group telling me when and where I can
| surf the Net.
|
| If a private ISP wants to set up their system to require a minimal
| amount of experience and training from their customers, fine by me. If
| others want to set up their firewalls to block access to those who do
| not have that same level of training, again, fine by me. That said I
| don't see those sorts of restrictive policies winning them too many
| customers.
|
| After you have paid, you have a right to use the Net and the government
| and licensing boards, and others should stay out.
|
| Again, nothing personal and not a flame. However, since much of my work
| involves developing or influencing policy, I see too many "quick fixes"
| come out of headlines and frustration. That kind of policy just doesn't
| work.
|
| ------------------------
| Jason Hayes - Principal
| Hayes Holdings Consulting
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hayz.ws
| Blog: www.hayz.ws/blog
| #1936 - 246 Stewart Green SW
| Calgary, AB, Canada T3H 3C8
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|
|
|
|

- --
"No, mon, let's go home to Jamaica. I and I been in Babylon too long." -- Homer Simpson
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