Shawn wrote:
> The problem is that we have both new programmers, who want to learn, and
> experienced programmers who are looking to expand their skill sets.  We want
> our meetings to be suitable for both.  I'm hoping that the experienced
> programmers might mentor the new programmers and help accellerate their
> learning, as well as converse with other experienced programmers and discuss
> more advanced issues.  If the meetings aren't at least partially suitable
> for the experienced programmers, then they will not show up.  If that were
> to happen, then I would consider the SIG a failure (my own opinion).

I agree.

I think the make-up of the audience for the meetings will partly determine
the direction of subsequent meetings.  the more beginners, the more the
topics will have to accomodate, while larger numbers of experienced
programmers will likely lead to less beginner friendly topics to satisfy
the needs of the audience.

I think the nature this type of informal environment will lead to
presentations on topics that the presenters find interesting and/or
challenging.  thus, it would be great if beginners were to step up and
create some of the beginner presentations, maybe by partnering up with
someone who also knows the subject.  of course experienced programmers
aren't experienced in everything and can create beginner presentations on
topics that they themselves are beginners.

> I'm open for suggestions on how to make it work for both levels of
> programmers.  Thus far, I think the best option is to do two presentations
> at each meeting.  One for new programmers, and one for experienced
> programmers.

before the presentations, it might help if the presenter were to post some
links to resources that can help people come up to speed on a certain
topic.  to use your example, if you were to do your ""roadmap to web
development" presentation, you should send some links to intro on
html, intro on javascript, intro on http/cgi, etc.  this way the audience
can be more prepared.

> So, you're point is well taken.  I agree we MUST accomodate new programmers.
> However, we must ALSO accomodate the experienced programmers.

I think we must accomodate the audience, which may be both, or it may be
end up being experienced.

Dave


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