On Thu May 20 2004 17:49, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On May 19, 2004 08:23, Curtis Sloan wrote:
> > Further to the security/accessibility continuum principle is the idea of
> > "security as a process".  It's never a finished product.
>
> indeed.
>
> > Making "cybersecurity" real is at odds with the "capitalism" that brought
> > pervasive computing and Microsoft ubiquity to market.
>
> how so? it may be at odds with Microsoftian marketing practices, but
> Microsoft isn't the only incarnation of the capitalistic model in the tech
> industry. the two are no synonymous, in fact one might even argue that
> Microsoft is NOT capatalistic at all but a virtual oligarchy. even the
> Kings and Churches of old made money (and often great stupid gobs of it),
> but that characteristic alone did not make them "captalists".

I actually agree with you on this point.  I probably should have taken a 
moment to better convey my intended meanings behind "cybersecurity" and 
"capitalism" (perhaps <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags over double quotes ;-).

Essentially, these terms as bandied about by government and industry 
organizations seem to have corrupted into a kind of lingo suitable for 
agenda-driven policy.  What goes on behind the cover of those words hardly 
resembles what was originally intended when the words were created.

Ergo, <sarcasm>cybersecurity</sarcasm> and <sarcasm>capitalism</sarcasm> 
actually don't go hand-in-hand since the so-called capitalism of today (as 
you say, really a handful of ultra-powerful players) doesn't really lend 
itself to diversity, authenticity or quality.  Shiny crap sells and that's 
what matters.  Apparently.

And my commentary is that, frankly, I find it disgusting and hope very much 
for the things you have detailed in this and further replies to this thread.

Thanks, Aaron.  Food for thought is yummy.  :-)

Curtis

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