On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 22:19, Shawn wrote:
> Hi gang.
> 
> I just tried to put the classic movie "Willow" into my DVD drive.  I got a 
> prompt that indicated a multimedia cd had been inserted, and would I like to 
> open it with Kaffeine.  "Sure!" I said, but then Kaffeine complained it 
> didn't have the codec...  A message appeared stating "This version of Xine 
> lacks support for playing DVD discs for legal reasons", and gave a reference 
> to a URL for more detail 
> (http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/09/xine_dvd.html).  So, it looks as 
> though there are no DVD movie players available.  

Not a problem. You can get a real version of Xine for SuSE from
http://packman.links2linux.org/index.php4?action=cat&cat=16 you can then
get libdvdcss2 from http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/index.html
This should allow you to play DVDs in Linux. There are other OSS DVD
players available such as:
VideoLAN: http://www.videolan.org/
MPlayer: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
Ogle: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/

> <rant>
> What kind of Crock is this?  I own a legal copy, and simply want to watch it 
> on my computer - how is this "legally" different than putting it in my DVD 
> player connected to the TV?  And why is it I can play DVD's under Windows 
> then?  I have to say I am VERY disappointed - but not with Suse (or the Open 
> Source community) per se - I suspect they are simply victims of the 
> RIAA/Movie industry legal juggernaut.  Well, too easy - I now refuse to buy 
> any DVDs until I can watch them under Linux.  Guess that kinda backfired on 
> them.... (realistically, this won't matter at all to them, but at least I 
> feel like I've made my stand).
> </rant>

The issue is not with the legality of your DVD. The problem is that DVDs
are encrypted to make them harder to pirate. In order for a player to
decrypt dvds, you have to buy a licence from the Japanese DVD cartel.
This is why there are no legal problems with using a standalone dvd
player, or a commercial player for Windows or MacOS. The problem is that
open source developers cannot get a licence and open source the
decryption program. There is software called decss which does
de-scramble DVDs, but it is in legal limbo in many jurisdictions.
There are also two distributions that do come with commercial dvd
players. Turbolinux 10f comes with powerdvd (see
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=73&perpage=1&pagenum=1 for 
more info.). Linspire comes with LinspireDVD (see 
http://www.linspire.com/lindows_dvd_info.php for more info.). Intervideo the makers 
for WinDVD have also been talking about a Linux player for a long time 
http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/LinDVD.jsp

Jesse 


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