> > fully agreed; the only trick is, that newbies can only be helped by
> > seasoned guns; seasoned guns don't stick around for long, unless there's
> > continuing value for them, too. And we've seen the fading away of too
> > many of the group's founding generation. It's a huge loss to the group
> > and the question is, if we can get them back. I sure hope so.
>
> This I think I have to disagree with, the true newbies can often be helped
> by someone who is not that far from complete newbie status themselves.
> (Why are you all looking at me?)
> Sometimes, a full blown guru is not what they need because he/she
> can't get their head around the fact that said newbie doesn't understand
> point A,B or C first.
> Having said that, there are quite a few in this group who are capable of
> explaining things at a very basic level as well and I thank you all for
> your patience.
> Anyway, my point was that a wide spread of skill levels is a good thing
> and not all of us want to, or are able to attain true Guru status.
> Not tot say we shouldn't keep trying. :)
>
Perhaps something we could look into is setting up a mentoring type program.
It could consist of senior gurus, working with junior gurus to assit newbies
and at the same timne developing their skills.  An example would be, having
a senior person working with a junior on the Apache workshop and having the
junior and senior presenting it together.

I for one would welcome the chance to learn some system/network
administration skills, applications, concepts, etc from those who are
willing to share.  ANd I mean going beyond the mailing list.  But have a
type of regitry listing gurus and there areas of expertise (i.e.
Infrastucture hardware, Security Administration, etc.) adn have them work
with a couple people to bring them along.

I think that something like that would ultimately benefit everyone, by
showing people that we arent just a bunch of hackersand geeks but a network
of IT professionals, who can deal with just about anything...but with a
penchant for Linux and FLOSS products.

My douse centavos worth!



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