I support the idea of a membership, and I'll be signing up at the next meeting for my tier 2 membership.

However, I do think that the idea of $2 dues at monthly meetings is a great idea.   It will build up the kitty that much faster and allow us to do different things. 

I personally think that it would be great if CLUG had a computer lab that could be used for experimental purposes.  Some machines could be shared and remote access allowed, and other machines given physical access for some users to play with.

These same computers could be used for holding workshops, or for teaching new users about linux.

If the membership would decide that this would be a good idea, then it takes money to pay for the real-estate, to pay for the computers, the internet connections, etc, etc, etc.

If twenty bucks gives you the ability to influence the direction of the group,  and access to the perks we already have, and possibly in the future perks like I've mentioned above, then it's well worth the money.


On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 13:33, Jarrod Major wrote:
I figured I would take the opportunity to break this out as it has little to
do with CUUG's upcoming events.

CLUG membership is a very simple way to support the group financially. We
are not actively seeking capitol towards a goal but that is not to say that
one couldn't come along at any time. Certainly the idea of funding a BBQ is
within the realm of possibility and you can count this as my nod of support
of such a decision. At the last InstallFest, CLUG purchased meal voucher's
for pizza, a drink and banana bread at Coco Brooks for anyone that attended
the event. It did not cost us much and wasn't advertised but it was a nice
perk.

CLUG is very fortunate in that we have not had to pay thus far for the space
that we have had our meetings. I believe that CUUG and most other
organizations do pay. Having a treasury for this purpose in case we needed
it is a good idea.

The whole voting rights thing is a contentious issue but as Aaron and I have
tried to explain, the decisions that are usually put to a vote are
concerning things CLUG may or may not pay for or some organizational
decision which usually affects those actively involved. So if you are not
actively involved what kind of things do you honestly feel qualified to vote
on? You have to ask yourself if this is worth fighting for.

I for one would rather have a majority decision of paying members decide how
to spend money than those who show up once a year or only contribute once or
twice on the mailing list.

Honestly, we are talking about $20 a year (if you care to sign up and
renew). That's the cost of a case of beer. Is CLUG worth that to you? If not
then don't get a membership. If it is, you can take pride that your money is
helping CLUG to do things like pay for web hosting.

Having sponsors who offer CLUG members a discount was not supposed to be the
driving force behind getting a membership. It is a perk as is the ability to
review books. As Shawn already suggested, we will accept book reviews from
anyone but if you want to review a book we have from Prentice Hall PTR or
one from O'Reilly you must be a valid Tier Two member. Again this was
considered only from an accountability standpoint. We have a good
relationship with our Sponsors and if someone were to take a book for review
and run off never submitting one then this hurts our relationship with them.

With the sponsorship thing, this necessitated the need for a membership card
that lends us more legitimacy. The card shows our sponsor that you are an
(ideally) active member and it's easier to deal with that. This as a result
incurs costs; printing, laminating supplies, etc.

I think we are missing the point here. CLUG is not in the business of making
money. As a professional organization however, we do need to pay for things.
We are working towards non-profit status which means we will have Government
looking at our books. We have talked about doing things like donating
computers (loaded with Linux and Open Source apps) to needy families or
helping some other governmental agencies. These resources could be donated
or they could be purchased by CLUG.

There's many ways we can spend our money but $3000 isn't a great deal and
would take no time to burn through. We have our future to think of. I feel
confident that this little purse we have will ensure CLUG will be here to
stay.

Jarrod


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