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Guy Davis wrote:
> Maybe I don't understand your post but this seems reasonable to me
> now that most receiving mail servers on the Internet will flag mail
> coming directly from IPs in the dynamic Shaw IP address block as
> spam.
> 
> From about 2000 through 2004 or so, my outgoing email travelled like
> this:
> 
> Workstation -> Linux Server under desk -> Receiving SMTP server.
> 
> Around 2004, I noticed that many "receiving" SMTP servers were
> flagging my mail as spam since my Linux server was in the Shaw
> dynamic IP range. So I added the following line to my
> /etc/mail/sendmail.mc file:
> 
> define(`SMART_HOST',`shawmail.cg.shawcable.net')
> 
> Now my outgoing mail travels like so:
> 
> Workstation -> Linux server -> shawmail.cg.shawcable.net -> Receiving
>  SMTP server.
> 
> All my mail is getting through now as the receiving SMTP server seems
> to recognize the shawmail server as an authorized SMTP host for that
> IP block.  The mail takes a couple more minutes to arrive as Shaw's
> server isn't too quick, but at least the Spam blocks at the receiving
> end aren't eating my messages.
> 
> On the other hand, maybe I misread your message and Shaw is planning
> to firewall off incoming connections to port 25 on its client's
> systems? That would be unfortunate...
> 
> Guy
> 
> Gustin Johnson wrote:
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>> Shaw will be redirecting all outbound connections on port 25 to
>> their own mail servers.  For the moment there is a small test zone
>> downtown (that happens to include 2 of my clients and my apartment)
>> that has had this change implemented.
>> 
>> I think this is a bad idea (and so do my clients who were unable to
>> send email ).  If you also think that this is a bad idea you should
>> probably let them know.
>> 
>> The support staff were unaware of this change, so you may wish to
>> have them look at Ticket# 11799439.
>> 
>> I may be eating my words in the near future and ordering up a Telus
>> DSL connection.
> 
The problem is that when I send email, I do so directly from my mail
server.  I use SMTP Auth secured with TLS.  I do this because I make use
of SPI for a number of the domains I host.  I also avoid issues with my
ISP's mail system (Shaw has a long history of unexplained mail delays).

Also some of my larger clients (100+ employees) have their own mail
servers onsite.  For employee to employee communication this is more
secure than using shaw (or anyone else) for outgoing mail. It was a
client who initially reported this to me.

Also, my laptop connects to a variety of ISPs in the course of a single
day, so having to change my mail client is a bit of a PITA.

Of course, this discussion would be far different if the ISPs blocked
the default ssh port, how many here would support that?
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