On Thursday 29 June 2006 14:37, Gustin Johnson wrote:

> The problem is that when I send email, I do so directly from my mail
> server.  I use SMTP Auth secured with TLS.  I do this because I make use
> of SPI for a number of the domains I host.  I also avoid issues with my
> ISP's mail system (Shaw has a long history of unexplained mail delays).
>
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>
> Of course, this discussion would be far different if the ISPs blocked
> the default ssh port, how many here would support that?

They're not blocking outbound SMTP, they're proxying it.  Yes, it would be 
disturbing if they did the same thing with SSH.  I would rather not have SMTP 
or SSH handled in this way.  However, I believe Shaw's ToS explicitly says 
they do not allow these types of servers.  It's more Shaw turning a "blind 
eye" that allowed it to date.  If you don't like it...

Which brings us to the point that Shawn brought up.  How about making an ISP 
that would allow this by letter of the law?  I can foresee some legal 
difficulties with that, but I have to admit the idea is still enticing.

My 2 cents,
Curtis S.

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