FYI,

 

Some hosts are/have opened up port 26 as a matter of course.

 

Dave

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Evan Cortens
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:44 PM
To: CLUG General
Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Did shaw shut down external ports?

 

I'm with you on this one Shawn... even if there intentions are honourable,
it's not really a practical solution for many people...

I'm on Shaw as well... port 25 is still working for me...

Just a quick question though, have people tried ports 465 and 587? Many SMTP
servers operate on those ports as well... When I was on RCN (a cable company
in Boston that blocked outgoing port 25), I found those two ports often
worked... It's enough to stop the bots, but still allows people to use their
own external SMTP servers... 

I just tried those three ports on 2 different external SMTP servers; 25 and
587 for both, 465 didn't work for either one...

Evan

On 6/14/07, sgrover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Soooo...

Connecting your home email client to your business email server is now
out of the question?  (for sending).

One day, Shaw will actually THINK about what they are doing and realize
it just ain't gonna work.. :) 

I have a SOHO connection, so the moment they pull this for my line is
the moment I move my business elsewhere.  But even then, I still need to
relay my outbound mail through Shaw's mail servers - otherwise my server 
is erroneously tagged as a "spamming server" by some of the RBLs (who
are blocking Shaw's IPs with a class C subnet, even though my IP uses an
abnormal subnet (.246 I think...)

And the only reason they can be doing this is 
a) To help prevent outgoing spam.  (admirable intent, but...)
b) control of email services.  Other big ISPs are no longer guaranteeing
  mail delivery unless the user signs up for a "premium" service.  I 
suspect Shaw is gearing up to do something similar.

My thoughts.

Shawn


Kin Wong wrote:
> Just got a polite email this morning from Shaw indicating that we need to
change our modems and that there has been a network policy change ( i.e. if
you are using port 25 for outgoing mail and it is not through Shaw's server,
then you are sol).  Somebody must be thinking it is only one port, what's
the big deal.  I think the date on the memo for for the 15 of next month,
not that anyone has notice them playing with port 25 recently. 
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:07:26 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Did shaw shut down external ports? 
>
> Outbound works too, if you set up SHAW as a smarthost.
>
> Kev.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Wiltshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Did shaw shut down external ports?
>
> I think it's only outbound. When I moved last month I was unable to send 
> mail until my static IP was set up.
>
> On Tuesday 12 June 2007 11:55, Jesse Kline wrote:
>> Seeing as I got both these e-mails, they havn't cut port 25 yet.
>>
>> Jesse 
>>
>>> I know for sure they are working on cutting port 25 for residential
>>> customers.
>>> It doesn't affect SOHO users though.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 12 June 2007 11:50, Robert Campbell wrote: 
>>>> I have had to re-subscribe to this list using my gmail account so
>>>> that I could ask this question..... Has shaw shut down access to
>>>> internal ports (or is it just me?). 
>>>>
>>>> I haven't rebooted my firewall (yet), but email is bouncing and I
>>>> can't ssh into my server from an external host.
>>>>
>>>> So, is it just me, or is everybody experiencing this process? 
>>>>
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