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I am reminded of how the industry cried murder when the new Battle Star
Galactica aired in the UK 6 months before us.  People like me, the
supposed target audience were not willing to wait, and so turned to the
internet to watch the first season.

The predicted flop never happened, and BSG became the most popular show
to ever air on the SciFi channel.  In the months preceding the North
American launch, the technical savvy were giving the show a ton of free
press on their blogs and by word of mouth.  There are few people that I
did not mention the show to.

So, was the show helped or hurt by the downloads?

Further, has the recording industry actually hurt musicians?  Perhaps
the "industry" part needs to die.  Perhaps "content" is over priced?
There are many more questions, and are no easy answers.  In fact you
could still reasonably argue either  side for most of these questions.

Whatever happens, it will sure to be an interesting ride.


Kin Wong wrote:
| Interesting discussion, I have some content that would add yet another
point of view.
|
| The common view would be that theft is bad, however there is a
transitional phase where it will happen until the system corrects itself
and a new steady state is established.
|
| Here is an example, the movie industry was scream bloody hell when the
vcr came out - the premise was that people would copy movies and they
would lose revenue.  In reality what happen was that people did copy
movies and they lost some revenue.  From their point of view it was lost
of revenue but it is only a real lost if there was a potential buyer
that no longer bought.  On the flip side, it create huge opportunities
where it created a multi-billion dollar industry.  The increase exposure
create a market that far exceeded what they lost.
|
| When I was young, there were not a lot of movies in a year - today you
need a small fortune to own all the movies produced in a year.  From an
economic point of view, with a greater market and consumer base, you
would expect prices to drop.  The prices have not dropped significantly
(at least upon initial release).  As the movie industry moves to bigger
budget movies and stars demanding bigger dollars, the movie industry
continues to point their fingers at the downloaders as the problem.
|
| Corporate social responsibility is as close a name as I can think of
for this phenomenon.  (not in all cases) don't spend big bucks producing
something mediocre and expect consumers to compensate you.  Don't
produce something that costs 0.50 and expect payment of $30.  I am not
saying that profit is bad, just that exhorbant profit is bad as the
public will find alternative action be it legal or illegal.
|
| People have talked about theft and contract of the Internet but no one
has talked about the Internet as an enabler to create for the first time
equality between big and small business.  Today, you can be a publisher,
a movie producer, a software company, a music producer.  Today you can
do all this in direct competition with big business.  This concept is
well covered in a book called Wikinomics.  In there it outlines a
paradigm shift where the importance is exposure and not compensation.
(Starting to sound like Star Trek.)  One author states that he writes a
book and sells it through traditional means but he also allows it to be
downloaded from his website for free.  He is also not too concern that
someone on the other side of the world may download, print and sell his
book without him seeing a dime.  To him, the world is his market and his
main concern is will his thoughts and notions be heard in a sea of me
too voices.  At some point if people like his ideas, they will se
|  ek him out and will buy a book from him.
|
| This is also very much true with up and coming struggling artists.
Any exposure is good exposure even intentionally allowing people to
'steal' your music.
|
|>From my point of view, the open market dictates what is ethical and
what is not over time.  Ethics is not dictated by a single point of view
or artificial oversight committees or government but by societies
collective view over time.  Lastly, ethics is a matter of affordability
- - we can certainly feel very smug looking at what is ethical and what is
not living is a warm house with 3 or more square meals a day.  Take away
all the comforts of life then theft of the basic living requirements
like food now becomes a right.
|
| That certainly did not clear anything up - just thought I would
broaden the subject matter.
|
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