Here is a link , of the caliber of stuff you might be intrested in :-) http://www.developer.com/open/article.php/3726621
Cheers Szemir On February 9, 2008 20:52, bogi wrote: > And since you mentioned that you disagree with my opinion regarding > learning, that is great, it was a challenging assumption that people do not > want to learn, they do, and they will. I do not use Windows for anything in > my working or home environment, and have not used a windows for a bit > longer than a decade. > As for using Linux on non production environment, well Linux is free > software, one may use it for any purpose whatsoever. > Many, and that number is high, use linux in Live production settings, > including banks, heavy industry, mining, space industry, holywood, > healthcare, military and i can really go on. It mostly depends on how much > of the information is hidden from the decision maker, to help them arrive > at the desired decision , and use windows for their production environment, > essentially suffering the consequences of their decision for a decade to > come. These types of decision cost a lot of money, and require a great > amount of investment, both human and monetary. To expect the same people > who voted Microsoft to eat their words and recommend Linux after 6 or 7 > years of deciding to use Windows, and essentially spending a huge amount of > resources in the process is not realistic, and this is the market that this > type of an article is written for. To provide some sort of a justification > to use proprietary, closed source and non free software. Eventually it will > become obvious one way or another, that Free and open source software has > more benefits and is more advance and more productive than Closed source > proprietary software that inevitably comes with a nice vendor lock-in. I > use Free software, i write my software using free software, and whenever > possible, i make what i write available as free software. It is a > gratifying feeling. Anyone who does not choose freedome, automatically > chooses slavery and servitude. Slavery can be very comfortable and > convenient but it is not gratifying and does not lead to greatness ... > > Phew. > Cheers > Szemir > > On February 9, 2008 20:02, Graham Monk wrote: > > My view is that Linux is more than capable of doing a lot more, > > if it is allowed to. Why do you think MS is fighting so hard and dirty > > over the OOXML and ODF thing? Linux is not used where it can't read > > proprietary formats, that's not the fault of Linux. People who don't > > know ask "well if it can't read xxxx it's no good to me" They have > > generally too short an attention span to listen to the arguments > > about formats. > > > > Niche OS? Shawn says it well, Linux runs on more types of > > computers than any other OS ever. > > > > graham > > > > On Feb 9, 2008 1:29 PM, Doug Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I agree it's probably not that well written an article. The part that > > > caught my attention was that linux wants to be "a niche operating > > > system that has a following and harbors little appeal to more than 98 > > > percent of the world's computer users." > > > > > > I've watched linux grow over the years, but my experience is that it's > > > primarily making headway as a server replacement for non-prod work. > > > Sure there are examples out there that have gone open-source, but they > > > aren't the norm. I'm a little disappointed that linux hasn't made > > > better headway over the years as a viable replacement for windows. > > > Just out of curiousity does anyone work in a primarily opensource > > > environment here in Calgary? Actually using linux as their only > > > workstation at work? > > > > > > I'm not trying to bash linux. I think it is a great solution, but I'm > > > willing to put the effort in to make it work because I support the > > > ideal. Most people are inherently lazy and I disagree with Bogi in > > > that most people don't want to learn something new. Most people are > > > only willing to learn more about what they already know because it > > > validates their initial investment of effort. Granted this is my > > > personal experience, but I see lots of examples where people aren't > > > happy to try the next version of outlook or (shudder) vista because it > > > makes them uncomfortable. (vista isn't a great example here, because > > > it _is_ frought with problems) > > > > > > So when I read this article I thought, maybe that's it, maybe linux > > > just wants to be a niche O/S. And I just think it's better than that. > > > I think there needs to be a change for it to become really popular. > > > What change, I really don't know. The opensource model is an > > > experiment that has been surprisingly successful. Does the process > > > need to evolve for it to become the primary desktop of choice? I think > > > so, and I look forward to some changes. > > > > > > My two cents and probably not worth much more than that. :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > Shawn wrote: > > > > Some interesting ideas in there. But overall I find it's just > > > > another propaganda mouthpiece article bashing Linux and Open source > > > > in general. It's kinda subtle but really, the article doesn't have > > > > anything useful for me other than complaining the some of Linus's > > > > comments don't seem to add up. But, If you were to put those > > > > comments into the context they were originally expressed, rather than > > > > forcing them into the context of the premise of this article, they > > > > would problem make more sense. > > > > > > > > As for who speaks for "Linux", well there's only one opinion that > > > > matters to me regarding what Linux is or should be. Mine. If it > > > > does the job for me and meets my criteria, I don't really care what > > > > Linus, BillyG, or anyone else thinks about it. It's nice that there > > > > are a good number of folks out there who happen to have similar needs > > > > to my own though.. :) > > > > > > > > My thoughts. > > > > > > > > Shawn > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clug-talk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
