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I was told if I remove Xp from the computer it voids the warrenty. Like the last one I bought from them I paid them to remove it and install OpenBSD. They didn't get it right and installed FreeBSD. But who cares! That was an ASUS machine... nice. Now they offer an IBM with a Broadcom chipset. I guess I'm going to delcine and I'm sure going to decline doing business with any company which tries to impose a winderes contract on me. Like get real buddy. If the customer is the problem then the customer will shop elsewhere. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:33:29PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > Running VMs on netbooks is painful, if it works at all. The Atom > based netbooks (which is what powers the devices at the price point > that you listed) do not have virtualization support and they are > really just under-powered if you went the paravirtualized route or > vmware 3.x. > > You may also have even sketchier support for the wifi device under > BSD. I was a BSD guy in the 90's, but moved to Linux entirely with > the release of Debian Slink, have not looked back since. > > The wireless device in the cheap netbook might be a Broadcomm Pile 'O > Shite. In that case you probably won't be able to create an AP. > Intel NICs are for the most part awesome, but not as easy to make into > an AP as something Atheros based. YMMV. I have had mixed success > with some USB adapters. > > TLS/SSL does not really help you with shaping. These days traffic is > simply profiled using a number of metrics, and then shaping is > applied. The end result is that you can't avoid shaping, though I do > not believe that this has to be a bad thing. > > <OT rant>Shaping in and of itself is not a bad thing. I do it to my > home network for a reason. The discussion should not be about who > shapes and who doesn't, but it should be about the fairness of that > shaping. If Shaw shapes Netflix traffic so much that it degrades the > quality of the product, well that is a bad thing. > > On the other hand shaping bittorrent traffic so that my connection is > not flooded into uselessness by a neighbor is a good thing. Both > sides of this so-called net-neutrality debate > have an abundance of idiots who have no idea what they are talking > about. This is not a zero sum game and both sides are going to need > to work together. I am not optimistic. > </OT rant> > > There have been several attempts to get a community based civic mesh > network off the ground over the past few years. I am interested in > participating if this gets beyond the wishing stage. > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm brain storming. > > > > I need a mobil office. Here is a plan. Does it work? Does it make any > > sense? > > > > 1) I pick up a netbook ($169) - install say Ubuntu on it but I'd like > > triple boot with say Ubuntu, OpenBSD and (uggh) winders. I'd like a Lion > > on it too! Poss through a VM. > > > > 2) I set up a 3G or 4G link via say Wind for $29 / month. This gives me > > unlimnited data they say. > > > > 3) I enable the netbook as a WiFi AP and set up DHCPD. Thus it is a router > > and via the 3G link I should be able to configure it into my home network. > > > > 4) Thus I now have a mobile office. > > > > 5) I need to take my new gr 10 student with me until school starts and she > > needs help with geometry and I need to be at a job site. Via the AP she's > > got a mobile office. She can hit her old school in NYC and work on her > > assignments and if she needs help I'm there to help her. > > > > (BTW. For her geometry I'm coaching for 100%'s.) > > > > > > 6) I aquire say a Motorola Photon (not urgent). I'm going to need to open > > that puppy up. When I do so and as part of this I want to make an image of > > whatever is in there so that if it gets bricked I can reflash it. > > Meanwhile I'm going to be setting up what I need. > > > > Moto blur has to die. So does all the other crapola. I don't even know > > what it is yet. > > > > 7) Perhaps we install Asterisk on the netbook and perhaps we install it in > > a server back in my office. I have not thought this through. > > > > 8) We put the phone into airplane mode and totally shut it off from the > > telcos. > > > > 9) Since I will always be reasonably close to the netbook and it has the 3G > > data link I should be able to run VoIP back into my office and the asterisk > > server if necessary. > > > > 10) By doing this I get unlimited local calls. No roaming. unlimited > > North American LD if I want to tie in a land based plan back in my office. > > > > 11) We tunnel back through TLS so they can't shape traffic. If they do the > > answer is dump the vendor. > > > > 12) I want the multi-boot because I want that mobile netbook to be > > available as a hot spare for other things back in the office and to serve > > as a neat demo machine. > > > > 13) We then tie the mobile netbook into hot spots and set up a city wide > > mesh for all CLUG (and I want to invite CUUG) and sister groups who think > > doing a project like this will be fun. > > > > > > What have I missed? Other than this might be a project that will prove we > > are worthy? > > > > Terr. > > > > I'll buy the netbook and put it on-line on a static IP so all participants > > can work with it. Be nice to have conferencing set up. We should be able > > to do this. > > > > > > ------------ > > > > Also I've been talking with a nurse from Zimbawe (very serious) and she's > > trying to set up something for her village and next her country which is > > very corrupt. If we can pull this off then her team might be very > > interested and we might get some funding. > > > > I'd like to do something to help corrupt 3rd world countries. OLPC I think > > will fit into this. > > > > If we can get this running then the genie is out of the bottle as I see it. > > > > One way for CLUG / CUUG is to extend for anyone (the guinea pigs) an > > opportunity to open their WiFi and turn it into a club hot spot for say a > > membership in a BOF (birds of a feather) project so that as ppl drive > > around their minuets will be routed to our network and not Ma Bell's. > > > > But those thoughts are waayyy down the track. > > > > Is this possible? Can we do it? > > > > > > Terr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 06:45:05PM -0600, [email protected] wrote: > >> > >> I did a google search looking for the next install fest and this came up: > >> > >> http://www.clug.ca/node/423 > >> > >> I presume this is scheduled for 2012/05/13 since there seems to be no > >> reference to the year. > >> > >> I called Dave Watkins and he advised me he doesn't know about this yet. > >> > >> > >> I'd like to make a suggestion that CLUG schedual say 3-4 install fests per > >> year (presuming there is enough interest) and that this be posted > >> prominently on the CLUG website. I think it should be advertized at SAIT > >> and the UofC and perhaps CLUG can alternate between these locations. > >> Other suggestions are welcome. > >> > >> Also depending on my availablilty I will volunteer to help. > >> > >> > >> That being said I'd like some install help. I have a machine which lacks > >> a CD and floppy and I think the only way to get an O/S installed in it is > >> via a USB boot. I have NEVER set up a USB boot before. > >> > >> In fact I have no USB devices other than a memory stick. > >> > >> I want to put in Ubuntu Linux - probably with all the bells and whistles. > >> I also want to get a VM running and a running image of some of the (ugg) > >> winders stuff. (like NT 4.0) and maybe even DOS. > >> > >> One of the reasons for DOS is that I have quite a lot of specialized DOS > >> software that I would like to get running. Some is my own code which > >> drives plotters via an RS232 I/F. > >> > >> If I can get this running somehow it would be great. I tried either > >> DOSEMU or DOSBOX on this machine (Debian Sarge) and it crashed the system > >> as I recall. > >> > >> I'd probably like to get OS/2 running in a VM as well if possible because > >> I happen to have some apps which I bought years ago which might be nice to > >> run. > >> > >> Of course I can do all this myself but just like most others I do not find > >> frustrations to be rewarding. Maybe I can help others in return for some > >> help setting up some pretty fancy stuff. > >> > >> In addition I think CLUG should invite CUUG and any other sister groups to > >> help share the work and the fun. > >> > >> Terr > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> clug-talk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
