I'm just trying to figure out what is what and this should be documented on a 
one page cheat sheet.

I need server, development and desktop and I have it now with Debian... came in 
by default.  I was suprised that it seems to be fragmented with Ubuntu and I 
don't know why.






On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 01:51:40PM -0600, Shawn wrote:
> The server version does not install with the build-essential packages in 
> place - you still have to install them.  A number of packages have the 
> build-essential package as a dependancy, so it *may* get installed for 
> you as you configure your server.  On my servers - typical LAMP server - 
> this has not been the case.
> 
> I don't see the problem here - a few minutes to install the package(s), 
> or a complete rebuild of a system to get... the same state you are in 
> now, maybe.
> 
> I don't know the specific circumstances, but if you do not need a GUI, 
> or you really do need a server, then by all means install the server 
> platform.  But installing a server JUST to get GCC is a waste of time in 
> my opinion.
> 
> If you are doing anything development related - i.e. you need GCC - then 
> take the time and build a development environment.  There is TONS of 
> documentation on this.  You'll finish and be compiling code MUCH faster 
> than this conversation has taken, and still much faster than distro 
> hopping trying to find something that does it for you.
> 
> On 12-05-02 12:32 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > Why don't I just re-install with say a server edition.  Chris suggested 
> > this.
> >
> > Which is the easiest?  Start with server and install KDE and so forth or 
> > stay with Kubuntu and add in the missing packages which I will need.  WHat 
> > comes in the dssktop install which is "to die for".  What I see in that 
> > machine right now looks to be less by far in the way of apps than I have in 
> > my old Debian box which I've been using for years.
> >
> > Like for instance I don't see much in the way of applications.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 11:08:04AM -0600, Shawn wrote:
> >> GCC is a developer tool.  If you are not doing development, or using
> >> source code, then it is not needed.  Seeing as K/Ubuntu is targeted to
> >> the general public, GCC is not needed.  However, it is a simple apt-get
> >> install away.
> >>
> >> If you are doing development, or need to install something from source,
> >> then you need to install the build environment:
> >>
> >> sudo apt-get install build-essential
> >>
> >> That installs GCC, Make, and other related packages.  You may need to
> >> install other DEV packages as well, depending on just what it is you are
> >> doing.
> >>
> >> Shawn
> >>
> >> On 12-05-02 04:52 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was shocked that GCC seems to be missing in Kubuntu!
> >>>
> >>> Chris says that the advantage of Ubuntu is the regular update cycles.  
> >>> While this is not likely all that important to me it is good to know that 
> >>> if I do need to update a package that likely it will be more up-to-date 
> >>> than in Debian.  Can others confirm this?
> >>>
> >>> Thing is that if they don't bother to include GCC in Kubuntu then who is 
> >>> that version targeted to?
> >>>
> >>> If I start with the server edition then is this more complete?  I'm going 
> >>> to want to be running a KDE desktop.  Should I just stay with Kubuntu and 
> >>> add in everything that seems to be missing which seems to be an aweful 
> >>> lot?
> >>>
> >>> Opinions?
> >>>
> >>> THanx
> >>>
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