Ubuntu picks one piece of software for a given task. They do this on purpose as a default menu can look really nasty (how many people know the GIMP from Krita). If you want those other packages they are only an apt-get/aptitude (or GUI equivalent) away.
If you are new to Linux there is only one application to choose from. If you are not new you can get the applications that you want. This approach bothers some people but I have no problem with it. I personally use "dpkg --get-selections" and "dpkg --set-selections" to quickly get all the apps I want installed (presuming that I have a working install to begin with). I find that I start with a much cleaner system with fewer updates. Of course YMMV On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm just trying to figure out what is what and this should be documented > on a one page cheat sheet. > > I need server, development and desktop and I have it now with Debian... > came in by default. I was suprised that it seems to be fragmented with > Ubuntu and I don't know why. > > > > > > > On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 01:51:40PM -0600, Shawn wrote: > > The server version does not install with the build-essential packages in > > place - you still have to install them. A number of packages have the > > build-essential package as a dependancy, so it *may* get installed for > > you as you configure your server. On my servers - typical LAMP server - > > this has not been the case. > > > > I don't see the problem here - a few minutes to install the package(s), > > or a complete rebuild of a system to get... the same state you are in > > now, maybe. > > > > I don't know the specific circumstances, but if you do not need a GUI, > > or you really do need a server, then by all means install the server > > platform. But installing a server JUST to get GCC is a waste of time in > > my opinion. > > > > If you are doing anything development related - i.e. you need GCC - then > > take the time and build a development environment. There is TONS of > > documentation on this. You'll finish and be compiling code MUCH faster > > than this conversation has taken, and still much faster than distro > > hopping trying to find something that does it for you. > > > > On 12-05-02 12:32 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Why don't I just re-install with say a server edition. Chris > suggested this. > > > > > > Which is the easiest? Start with server and install KDE and so forth > or stay with Kubuntu and add in the missing packages which I will need. > WHat comes in the dssktop install which is "to die for". What I see in > that machine right now looks to be less by far in the way of apps than I > have in my old Debian box which I've been using for years. > > > > > > Like for instance I don't see much in the way of applications. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 11:08:04AM -0600, Shawn wrote: > > >> GCC is a developer tool. If you are not doing development, or using > > >> source code, then it is not needed. Seeing as K/Ubuntu is targeted to > > >> the general public, GCC is not needed. However, it is a simple > apt-get > > >> install away. > > >> > > >> If you are doing development, or need to install something from > source, > > >> then you need to install the build environment: > > >> > > >> sudo apt-get install build-essential > > >> > > >> That installs GCC, Make, and other related packages. You may need to > > >> install other DEV packages as well, depending on just what it is you > are > > >> doing. > > >> > > >> Shawn > > >> > > >> On 12-05-02 04:52 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I was shocked that GCC seems to be missing in Kubuntu! > > >>> > > >>> Chris says that the advantage of Ubuntu is the regular update > cycles. While this is not likely all that important to me it is good to > know that if I do need to update a package that likely it will be more > up-to-date than in Debian. Can others confirm this? > > >>> > > >>> Thing is that if they don't bother to include GCC in Kubuntu then > who is that version targeted to? > > >>> > > >>> If I start with the server edition then is this more complete? I'm > going to want to be running a KDE desktop. Should I just stay with Kubuntu > and add in everything that seems to be missing which seems to be an aweful > lot? > > >>> > > >>> Opinions? > > >>> > > >>> THanx > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> clug-talk mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > >>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > >>> **Please remove these lines when replying > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> clug-talk mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clug-talk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying >
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