Holly
1) - I think this is a state issue - In CT - yes we must do MD H&Ps annual it is a
regulation of our Public Health Code.
3) - We had similar issues with our charts being to voluminous and have cut the number
of months each section will have. We did it by section and not just blanket time frame
- We catered to our MDS people -the MDS is to important not to have the information
accessible to you - to much room for error if you need to look in other places.
Good Luck
Holly QI in CT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Holly Sox, RN, RAC-C [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Survey Preparation run Amok
>
> Hi Group!
>
> I have a few questions for the group, all stemming from our survey prep process,
> which (as the header states) has taken on a life of its own.
>
> 1) Our administrator (and his administrator guru who is helping us with this
> process) asked me to find out if there is a regulatory requirement (either federal
> or state) for annual physical exams. I have not heard of this. The only requirement
> I have seen is that the "resident must be seen by a physician at least once every 30
> days for the first 90 days after admission and at least once every 60 days
> thereafter."
>
> So, to any of you folks who are more knowledgeable than I, is there any requirement
> for an annual physical to be done, or is this just considered as part of the every
> 60 days physician visits?
>
> 2) We have a married couple who reside in a room together. These people are as nice
> as they can be, but their hygiene and general cleanliness are very, very poor. The
> husband chews tobacco and spits anywhere the mood strikes him. He has some vision
> impairment, so it may be that he has difficulty "aiming" for a particular container.
> They are very resistant to bathing and get upset when housekeeper straightens their
> room or does any type of cleaning.
>
> We can deal with most of this, but the tobacco juice is becoming a real hazard. We
> are worried that one of them (or an employee or other resident) will slip and fall,
> and it is just nasty in general. Has anyone else faced this situation? Can we
> require him to only chew tobacco outside the facility (ie, the way we restrict
> smoking to certain outside areas)? Or can we designate a container in his room and
> tell him that if he is unable to confine his expectoration to that container he will
> not be allowed to chew?
>
> 3) (Last but certainly not least) My biggest concern is that today we were informed
> that ALL records other than MDS will be thinned q 3 months. We are going to have no
> information on the charts that is older than 3 months, including physician progress
> notes, ancillary department notes, etc. The only things that will be left longer
> than 3 months are the required 15 months MDS, the care plan, and rehab information.
>
> When I expressed my concern about this, I was immediatetly shot down. I said that
> there are MDS items with a 6 month look back, and so how was I supposed to know if
> there were falls 6 months ago, and 6 month wt loss, etc. The answer was that there
> is a Falls log kept by the ADON, and I could get my information from there. (Even
> though this is not part of the medical record and there is no guarantee that all
> falls make it to the log.) Weight records are kept in a weight book on the unit,
> and therefore I can get weight information from the weight book.
>
> I am pretty sure their minds are made up, but just wanted to ask what y'all think of
> this. (Dolores???? ) I just don't see how taking everything off the charts that
> quickly will be beneficial, and I can see all sorts of ways for it to be harmful.
> Am I overreacting??
>
> Thank you all, and have a great day.
> Holly
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