The "WE" consists of the charge nurse to begin with....if I note on the 5
day assessment the need to continue was not carried out by the charge nurse,
I confer with the DON bringing all information to her attention and we start
the 7 day (if not already started).
Our toilet plan is q/2hr. and prn but remember some residents require more
frequent intervals of toileting...thus the importance of an individualized
personal care plan.
The Nose
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlene Kleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: B&B
I am also trying to work on a better B&B program.
Can you tell me when you say "we" review H&P who does the review and
assessment at your facility and what is the frequency of your B&B toileting
plan?
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/03 11:22AM >>>
Well Kathy you asked for it....
All admissions in our facility are assessed for continence. We review H&P,
speak to the resident and family members, howerver in saying that we also
acknowledge that we may be provided with the accurate information and may
not be.
If there is just 1 episode of incontinece the resident is put on a 3 day B&B
toilet plan. If after this 3 day period we find a number of episodes of
incontinence then we continue this plan for an additional 7 days. If we
find that upon admission the information provided was inaccurate we document
as such and continue toilet plan for dignity and contact phyisician for
further interventions.
The Nose
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vogt, Kathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:09 AM
This is the third time I think I have posted this. If you do not have a
response, will one of you just let me know that it did get out to everyone.
I think our facility is doing poorly in regards to bladder training and
toileting programs. Can you let me know how your facility does it in order
to take credit for it on the MDS?
Thanks
Kathy Vogt, RN
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