Michelle,
Go back to 3-87.  The following example is listed:
 
"Miss W is cognitively and physically impaired resident, she is on strict bed rest. Staff is unable to physically transfer resident to toilet at this time. Miss W is incontinent of both bowel and bladder. One staff member must provide all care for her elimination and personal hygiene needs every 2 hours.
 
"Self Performance=4 Support Provided=2  Coding rationale:  Resident did not participate and required 1 staff person to provide total care for toileting and personal hygiene."
 
The instructions include "changing pads", which I have always interpreted as including briefs/pads/whatever absorbent incontinence product is used.
 
Holly
Holly F. Sox, RN, RAC-C
Clinical Editor
 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 10:22 AM
Subject: section g-toileting

There seems to be a conflict of information regarding the coding for toileting.  Some staff believe that if the resident is on the check and change program that they did not use the toilet.  In reading page 3-93 it states in toileting that the coding is for whether or not elimination occurred.  It also gives example's of using commode, bathroom , urinal and etc..  It does not however, give example of attends.  They are not toileted in the sense that they are put on toilet, commode or bedpan.  They are totally incontinent.  So would it be appropriate to code and 8 here?  Thanks.
Michelle
 
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Thank You.
 
Michelle Witges

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