Describing it as we see it is the current coding practice demanded by CMS.
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From: Lois Bluhm
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Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: staging of a pressue area

Just playing devil's advocate - If the resident had been re-admitted to the same Skilled Nursing Facility and that facility knew it had at one time been a Stage 4 how would they stage it as compared to a facility that doesn't know what it had been in the past?  I wish we could just "describe the wound as we see it" at all times versus all this other stuff. 
 
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thank you all for your input.... karen
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I agree.


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> If the area is not necrotic, then I too would code as a stage I but
> document in the nurses' notes the exact thing that you have described
> here so that it will not be a problem if it becomes a huge ulcer. 
>
> Brenda W. Chance, RN, RAC-C
> MDS Coordinator


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> Since it's not open, I'd lean toward a stage I. However, I agree that
> there
> is most likely underlying damage. I'm interested in seeing how other
> nurses
> would code it.
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> karen white
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:40 PM
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> Subject: staging of a pressue area
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>
> I have a question for the group. We had an admit over the weekend with a
> 4x4
> area on her coccyx. It is closed, but discolored, with a 3x3 purple area
> in
> the center. Staff called it a Stage I . I am not comfortable with that.
> The
> nurse on the floor who does the wound care does not understand why I
> want to
> stage it differently. I am leaning toward a stage 4, only because we are
> not
> sure what is beneath that purple.
> There is obviously underlined damage. What would you stage it?  Thanks
> Karen.
>
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