RE: time off- christmas

[Pat Rich]

The Administor is very young and timid. This is her first facility and she is very  inexperienced and he likes it that way. I have talked with her and she says"I can't do anything he won't listen to me" then shrugs her shoulders.

chnha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Make an appointemnt and speak with your administrator about it. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brenda Chance
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:06 PM
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Subject: RE: time off- christmas

Has the company bankrupted or some other kind of legal action being taken?  This sounds like an issue to the labor board for me.  I don�t think he can deny vacation pay that has already been taken and been approved.

 

Brenda W. Chance, RN, RAC-C

MDS Coordinator

 

 

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From: Pat Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:30 AM
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I work in a facility in the state of Tenn. The owner of this facility recently walked in and revoked all vacation time. Employees were told all time was lost and they started at square one as of Jan. 1 2004. Also told vacation was to be taken between may 30 and sept. 1st for the entire facility. I had been off the week before because of my honeymoon and was told although the administrator approved it 1 month prior it would not be vacation because all vacation had been lost. One emplyee had taken her last two weeks vac. prior to retirement and was depending on this check to carry her over until retirement kicked in and was denied her pay. What do you think of someone who would be this unethical and immoral? nursing staff already work at dangerously short ratios. Decubitus ulcer are on the rise, wgt loss has gone up, complaints from families and physicians and morale is nonexsistant. does anyone have a suggestion? I am already job hunting. The really sad part is there were good staff here and at one time cared. I feel now care in negligent and it scares me.

m silberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bingo.... this is what the problem is with our lousy profession. After all, we are only human and do enjoy spending at least a fair share of holidays an d a vacation with our families.

Nathan wrote:

I wonder how many nurses and CNAs end up quitting a job just to get a
vacation. With the upcoming nursing shortage, this will probably become more
common. Around November/December and again in the summer I bet resignations
go up. Nurses quit, take a vacation and then get another job. With there
being little benefit to staying with one employer, why not do it this way?
 
Nathan
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From: "Faye Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: time off- christmas
 
 
  

The unfairness r/t seniority if no checks in place is the reason our
policies changed r/t vacation from Memorial to Labor Day and over the
Christmas holidays.  I had worked here 2 years and could not get a
summer vacation.  People with seniority would request practically the
whole summer off as much as a year in advance and with staffing
 quotas
that left the rest of us out in the cold.  Needless to say, I with my
many years of working and a "big" mouth stirred the pot and won.  After
all, we have 4 seasons here Getting ready for winter, having winter,
recovering from winter and a short summer and I don't care how long
anyone has worked anywhere, every one is entitled to a little prime time
off. Ditto for Christmas although I usually volunteer to work Christmas
as I have no children living at home anymore.
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Connie L. Frank
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:23 AM
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Subject: RE: time off- christmas
 
We're union. They have off by when the request was turned in and
seniority.
In the past, administration
 discouraged staff from requesting off after
Dec
15 but now even the top staff take off the 2 weeks. There are MANY
disgruntled employees as a result of this. You can encourage staff to
take
turns and consider the feelings of others, however when so many feel it
is
owed them as they gain seniority, some will never see a holiday off.....
Some CNAs and Licensed staff just move to departments that don't have to
work holidays, like housekeeping, laundry and maintenance. It's the only
way
they can get the time off....and you are losing some extremely competent
people from the nursing dept.
 
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From: Holly McGran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:06 AM
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We do the same - we have had that in our personnel policy for many years
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people will get use to it.
Holly QI in CT
 
    

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From: Eva Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:32 AM
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:      time off- christmas
 
Hi, all-
I know this is not mds, but I was to check with other facilities about
      

this:
    

We are re-doing our employee handbook.  At present we do not allow
      

vacation time to be taken from 12/20-1/2.
    

We allow 2 christmas holidays and New years holiday to be used during
      

this
time and regular days off.
    

This is so we have enough staff and the same longevity staff don't
      

always
take the 2 weeks of christmas off.
    

We are trying to be fair to staff and cover resident needs.
 
However, some are now grumbling and want to change.
 
How do you all handle the Christmas holiday and vacations etc.??
      

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