north carolina, I can say that I don't spoon feed the surveyors, but my secret goal is to type so many pages of raps, that hopefully they will fall asleep or lose interest at task at hand - you know like most of our residents. The same for care plans.




Claudia
>From: m silberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Time studies
>Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 06:17:57 -0500
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>Do you work in PA. ????  Sounds very much like a facility here that
>requires this type of insanity.
>
>claudia farrell wrote:
>
>>Now I can relate....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Claudia >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Time studies
>> >Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:51:18 -0500 > >My boss stated we
>>complete a full MDS with raps and care plans it should >take 6 hrs.
>>For a 14 day and so on 1hr 1/2. For a quarterly it should take 3
>> >hrs. We schedule our day in those time frames. Some MDS always
>>take longer >then others. Some are easy with less raps. >She
>>investigated I think the Oscar report. I'll ask her to find out how
>>she >developed time lines. There is no way a MDS can be down in 20
>>mins. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sherry Salinas
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004
>>8:31 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Time studies > > >All I
>>can say is they're out in la-la land! > >Maybe you can get
>>administration to actually do one in 20 min and then you >get to
>>critique it. > >Sherry > >Deb Morell wrote: > >They think all MDS
>>should only take 20 min. They also have demanded we do a >careplan
>>upon admission(same day as admit) one on the 5 day, a new one on
>> >the 14 day and a new one with each quarterly, annual and sign
>>change. Not >just revise old c/p but print out a new one. Deb > > >
>> >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry >Salinas >Sent:
>>Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:15 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:
>>Re: Time studies > > > >20 min?  For a comprehensive or full MDS?  
>>Or a Quarterly?  Before IL >started requiring full MDS for
>>quarterlies, I could do an uncomplicated >quarterly RUGS III MDS in
>>20 min. > > > >A full MDS takes me anywhere from an hour (for an
>>uncomplicated quarterly or >annual) to three hours (for admissions
>>or complicated ones.) > > > >Sherry > >Deb Morell wrote: > >We have
>>just been told from our administration that we are taking too much
>> >time doing the MDS, they say it should only take 20 minutes to do
>>a MDS. Can >anyone help me find the time studies that have been
>>done. It sure would help >to show the powers that be it takes much
>>longer. They have been told by >consultants that AANAC is the
>>ultimate in MDS info, so hopefully they will >believe it if the
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