Re: R2b Question

[Nathan]

Title: AOL Email

An OBRA assessment of some type is due every 92 days. Quoting from 2.2 of the RAI Manual. Please note the bolded section of paragraph 3.   "The timing requirements for a comprehensive assessment apply to both completion of the MDS (R2b) and the completion of the RAPs (VB2). For example, an Admission assessment must be completed within 14 days of admission. This means that both the MDS and the RAPs (R2b and VB2 dates) must be completed by day 14. The MDS Completion Date (R2b) may be earlier than or the same as the RAPs Completion Date (VB2), and neither can be later than day 14. The comprehensive RAI is considered complete on the date the RN Coordinator indicates completion of the RAPs (VB2). The care plan must be completed by the end of the 7th day following completion of the RAI assessment. In other words, 7 days following the VB2 date. Assuming the resident does not have any significant changes in status or is not discharged from the facility, the next assessment in the OBRA assessment schedule is the Quarterly assessment. The Quarterly assessment is to be completed within 92 days of the R2b date of the Admission assessment. The OBRA schedule would continue with another Quarterly assessment to be completed within 92 days of the R2b of the previous Quarterly. A third Quarterly is completed within 92 days of the completion (R2b) of the previous Quarterly." Nathan ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Ebertowski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:14 AM Subject: RE: R2b Question In setting the dates for the 1st quartly after your admission assessment, you go by the admission date and it has to be 90-92 days from the admission date not your r2b or a3a dates or you will be late.    Heidi Ebertowski,R.N. MDS Care Coordinator Valley Memorial Homes Grand Forks, ND (701)787-7937   fax (701)787-7901 Confidentiality Statement: This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and entity to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged,confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.  If you are not the intended addressee,nor authorized to receive for the intended addressee,you are hereby notified that you may not use,copy,disclose or distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in the message.  If you have received this message in error,please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete the message.  Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Witges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: R2b Question       What is the time frame for the second quarterly from the admission R2b?  Would it be 24 weeks?  If so then it should work out correctly. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 8:27 PM Subject: R2b Question   I'm currently working with an MDS scheduling system that sets the quarterlies 12 weeks from the admission MDS R2b date for the entire year.  In this current system the first quarterly is done earlier than the actual due date by about one week.  The second quarterly is also scheduled from the admission R2b date.  In the past I've scheduled my second quarterly's due date from the first quarterly's R2b date not the admission R2b date.  I believe the second quarterly in this current scheduling system will be late because it would be greater than the time period allowed between the quarterly assessments.  I'm being told using the current MDS scheduling system I'll always doing the assessments ahead of their due date (based on the admission R2b date), thus the assessments will never be late.  I'm getting confused and it's not sounding right to me.  Hopefully this makes sense to you all.  I need to know what's correct?  Has anyone used a scheduling system similar to this current one I am?  Thanks for your help.    Susann Irwin, RN MDS Coordinator North Carolina