The 15 minutes do not have to happen all in a row, 10 minutes BID is acceptable. See page 3-194 of the manual, "The 15 minutesof time in a day may be totalled acrss 24 hours (e.g., 10 minutes on the day shift plus 5 minutes on evening shift) however; 15-minute timme increments cannot be obtained by combining P3a, P3b, and P3c." In other words, only minutes spent doing passive range of motion can be included in the calculations for the 15-minutes of PROM for restorative. You cannot include minutes of active range of motion in the calculation for passive range of motion. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:57 PM Subject: RE: restorative question
> What about 10 minute increments as long as it adds up to at least 15 minutes a day? for example: 10 minutes BID > > Please review the Grouper function in Chapter 6 of the RAI Manual. > > Winona > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cindy Kimpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:07 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: restorative question > > > > > > Refer to your RAI manual pg 3-194, "15 minute tme increments cannot be > > obtained by combining P3a, P3b, and P3c". As long as both Passive and active > > are done daily in 15 minute increments and documented and care planned, it > > doesn't say theyre not separate. Also see pg. 3-193, they separate bed > > mobility and ambulation. > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/04 06:44PM >>> > > When using restorative to achieve a rehab low for Medicare, what programs > > cannot be used together? I have been told bed mobility & ambulation are > > considered one program as well as PROM & AROM. Is this correct & are there > > others? What > > is the source document for this information? Thank You > > > > /---------------------------------------------------------- > > > The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the > > American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators > > "Committed to the Assessment Professional" > > Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your > > questions posted to NAC News and FAQs. > > For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org > > -----------------------------------------------------------/ > > /---------------------------------------------------------- > > The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the > > American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators > > "Committed to the Assessment Professional" > > Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your > > questions posted to NAC News and FAQs. > > For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org > > -----------------------------------------------------------/ > > /---------------------------------------------------------- > The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the > American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators > "Committed to the Assessment Professional" > Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your > questions posted to NAC News and FAQs. > For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org > -----------------------------------------------------------/ /---------------------------------------------------------- The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators "Committed to the Assessment Professional" Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your questions posted to NAC News and FAQs. For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org -----------------------------------------------------------/
