I would code extensive instead of total because the resident had some
participation in the task.  The definition of total on page 3.81 includes,
"There is complete non-participation by the resident in  all aspects of the
ADL definition task."

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Subject: code for toileting


> How would you code a completely incontinent resident who during the course
of being turned to complete care lifts up so that staff can remove the pad
underneath? Still a 4 or a 3 because they lift up?
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