I was looking at the lifting of her bottom as more of a bed mobility issue. Meaning she can reposition self. Pg 3-77 "Toileting" How the resident uses the toilet room, commode etc., transfer off/on toilet, cleanses, changes pad, ..adjusts clothes. Elimination occurs in many settings, etc....I can appreciate your position.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/08/04 08:42AM >>> Sorry but I disagree. It should be coded as a 3 as the resident did participate in toileting by lifting up for staff to remove the pad. Page 3-77 in the RAI manual states, "how the resident.......changes pad........" To be coded a 4 the res. would not have assisted in any way during the entire 7 day observation period. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Kimpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 7:19 AM Subject: Re: code for toileting > They are still dependent, 4. > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/04 10:40AM >>> > How would you code a completely incontinent resident who during the course of being turned to complete care lifts up so that staff can remove the pad underneath? Still a 4 or a 3 because they lift up? > /---------------------------------------------------------- > The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the > American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators > "Committed to the Assessment Professional" > Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your > questions posted to NAC News and FAQs. > For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org > -----------------------------------------------------------/ > > /---------------------------------------------------------- > The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the > American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators > "Committed to the Assessment Professional" > Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your > questions posted to NAC News and FAQs. > For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org > -----------------------------------------------------------/ > /---------------------------------------------------------- The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators "Committed to the Assessment Professional" Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your questions posted to NAC News and FAQs. For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org -----------------------------------------------------------/ /---------------------------------------------------------- The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators "Committed to the Assessment Professional" Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your questions posted to NAC News and FAQs. For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org -----------------------------------------------------------/
