RE: Where would one code arterial ulcers

[Orth, Ron A]

Arterial ulcers would be coded in M1.

 

Ronald A Orth
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From: Paul Beaulne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 7:47 AM
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Subject: Where would one code arterial ulcers

If arterial ulcers are excluded from M2 where do you code them

 

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:20 PM
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Subject: Re: Raps - arterial ulcers

Arterial ulcers are not included in M2b.  See the "coding" instructions on page 3-162 of the RAI User's Manual.  Also, see the 2nd example on page 3-164.

Rena

Rena R. Shephard, MHA, RN, FACDONA, RAC-C
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Subj: Re: Raps
Date: 5/2/04 11:45:57 AM Pacific Standard Time
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I have been trying to get a question out for three days.  iIdo not have any trouble receving any other email - I just can't initiate a email.  Can you help?
 
I just wanted to know if arterial ulcers are clasified in M2 as stasis ulcers or is this strictly for venous stasis ulcers?  Thanks.
 
Josephine
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Wright
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Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Raps


Lisa,
Yes, why does this trigger or why is this a particular problem for this resident and frequently you will find yourself interjecting the medical diagnosis. I guess that each surveyor has specific points that they are looking for and what pleases one may not please another. Overall, I try to be very detailed in my rap summary --sometimes hard to do if pressed for time.  Mary

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In a message dated 4/30/2004 5:46:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lisa,
  I once had a surveyor to say "why" in the rap summary and not "what" since the mds tells the what. So I look at every trigger and try to identify why.

Why what?
Did they want to know why it was triggered?
Thanks