Dear Tony,

  It is normal to be PCR positive for Gleevec patients.  My husband is
still PCR positive after 4.5 years on Gleevec but he remains in CCR
which means his marrow cytogenetics test and FISH test come out
negative.  Same as you.  Some patients do become PCR negative but many
Gleevec patients remain PCR positive.  He is on 400mg Gleevec.

  What you may need to discuss with your onc is doing the quantitative
PCR test like is done for most patients on the list as well as by our
doctor.  This test gives an actual number which you can track for
relapse.  If there is a downward trend in numbers, the disease is
reducing but if there is a consistent upward trend in PCR numbers, then
there can be relapse.  Very few Gleevec patients in chronic phase
relapse so do not worry.  What doctors want patients to do is reach a
milestone called a PCR 3-log reduction which is a 1000-fold reduction
in PCR values from diagnosis.  If you do not have a diagnosis PCR, that
is fine, usually, the lab has a baseline diagnosis PCR from other
patients.  If your PCR value is 1000 times lower than lab baseline, you
are deemed to be more or less safe from relapse.  That is why you need
to be doing a quantitative PCR testing.  So, you know what the numbers
are.

  Doctors have been known to increase dose to reduce the PCR, it does
bring additional toxicity to some but if the PCR value is at 3-log,
most doctors will not increase dose as PCR values have been seen to
fall even up to 5 years from studies.  So, you need to get a PCR number
and as long as this is falling with time, your doc probably will not
increase your dose.

  Regarding allopurinol, yes, my husband took this at diagnosis.  At
diagnosis, CML patients have a lot of leukemic white cells and they die
at a rapid rate and when dying give off uric acid.  Too much uric acid
in the blood can give rise to gout-like pains so doctors use
allopurinol to reduce uric acid levels.  In my husband's case, his uric
acid was raised at diagnosis and when allopurinol lowered it to normal
values, the doctor took the allopurinol off.  It could be that your
uric acid levels were not raised at diagnosis.

  Regarding pain in the spleen area, best thing to do is ask the doctor
to examine the area and see if there is any cause for concern.  With a
very low positive PCR value, your CML is under control so like Suzieq
says, it could be residual pain from a previously enlarged spleen or it
could be something else.  Ask the doctor to check it out if it
continues.  As far as I know, when white counts are 50,000 or more only
then the spleen starts to enlarge.  So, check it out with the doctor.

  Tony, a low PCR result is very good, you just need to do the PCR
number test like the rest so you know you are at safe levels for
relapse.

Best Wishes,
Anjana
caregiver to Roy
d/x Jan 2002
enlarged spleen, WBC 282,000
March 2002 400mg Gleevec
PCR positive


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