I know exactly what you are talking about.   Keep fighting!!!  Faith and pills! 
  It works.  

Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠. 18,s

> On Apr 3, 2015, at 8:09 PM, David Bradley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear Joyce,
> 
> Actually, God and I are in this for the duration and I (fortunately) don't 
> see that there are many alternatives to that.  I only wish that when my 
> appetite goes bad, and I am feeling detached from the things that once might 
> have led me astray, that it would automatically create lots of face-time with 
> God.  Instead I am checking my edema, taking my blood pressure, setting up 
> reminders to take my pills, worrying about my wife (a super care-taker who 
> also looks after an 88-year-old Mom), etc.  Still, whenever I ask for God's 
> company, I usually get some sense of presence.  It's not necessarily to fix 
> the problems: more to reset my compass.
> 
> I have been very lucky with the care I've received, and I'm good for now.  
> I'm glad your husband has Dr. Talpaz (and you).  I have learned to have a lot 
> of gratitude for these dedicated health care people (and my wife!).  
> 
> All the best to you and your husband,
> David
> 
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Dual Diagnosis: CLL/ CML
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 12:37:14 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> 
> David,
> The Bible tells us that God will not give us more than we can handle, but I 
> think you are coming close.  So sorry you have to deal with two blood 
> problems at the same time.  I see you live in Northern Michigan.  Have you 
> considered seeing Dr Talpaz in Ann Arbor at the University of Michigan Cancer 
> Center?  My husband comes all the way from Southern Illinois to see him.  He 
> is very knowledgable in CML and I am sure he treats other leukemia types as 
> well.  He was instrumental in the formation of Gleevec and Sprycel and 
> several other TKIs.  We recommend him highly.  But I am sure you are getting 
> good care at Mayo.  Please stay in touch and let us know how you are 
> progressing.  You are in my prayers.  God bless and keep you.
>          Joyce in IL
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 9:12 AM, גיורא wrote:
> 
> Dear David
> You are a special brave person and i wish you all the best and great success 
> on your dual fight. 
> You are the only person i have heard of that is on both Ibrutinib and 
> Imatinib at the same time
> My best regards
> Giora
> 
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> 
> ‫ב-3 באפר׳ 2015, בשעה 16:51, ‏‏David Bradley ‏<[email protected]> כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Thanks Beth!
> 
> Time for another update.  Based on my PCR that was negative for CML in 
> December, and my looming CLL, I was taken off Gleevec, and started Imbruvica 
> for my CLL, with the hope that the CML would remain dormant.  There have been 
> two slip-ups since then.  The Imbruvica triggered a heart problem, an atrial 
> fibrillation in February.  At the end of a week in hos[pital, I was given one 
> of those treatments with the electric paddles and fortunately immediately 
> went back into a good rhythm.  Arriving home, I started a recovery process in 
> which I am still weaker than I was, but a bit better every day.  
> 
> Then it was time for a new PCR.  My old nemesis, the Philadelphia chromosome, 
> was back (that was quick!).  So now I am back on Gleevec.  My Imbruvica has 
> to be on a 1/3 basis, since both drugs are Bruton's Tyrosine Kinase 
> inhibitors, and both use the CYP3A4 pathway.  
> 
> It has only been since December that I was off Gleevec, but my heartburn 
> reminds me of the main downside I had from it.  Still, I have faith it can 
> keep the CML at bay.
> 
> Anyway, as I said, I'm better every day, and besides, spring has finally come 
> to northern Michigan.
> 
> David  
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 12:35:08 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:
> Good luck to you David. It sounds so hard..glad you reconnected here....after 
> being diagnosed and doing well for 12 years....hope the meds support you well 
> with the CLL. happiest of holidays to you and yours. Beth.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard H <[email protected]>
> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
> Cc: icandoallttc <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 12:33 am
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Dual Diagnosis: CLL/ CML
> 
> I could not meet the requirements.  I have too many other health issues that 
> would interfere with the results they were looking for.  When I was first 
> diagnosed they ruled me out of a BMT for the same reasons.
> 
> Richard H.
> 
> On Saturday, December 13, 2014 2:07:12 PM UTC-6, Icandoallttc wrote:
> Hi David 
> So good to hear from you. 
> Marty sent us a site not long ago about a study for going off Gleevec.  There 
> are certain things you must meet to be in the study. 
> Glad you are negative. 
> Blessings
> Jeanie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 13, 2014, at 12:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I have posted here long ago, when I was first diagnosed with CML, in 2003.  
> At the time, I started on Gleevec, and immediately had a Complete Remission, 
> via FISH.  Unfortunately, I also showed signs of CLL, which was confirmed.  
> The CLL has been on "watchful waiting" until now.  
> 
> Recently my counts got very negative, due to the CLL, and I went to Mayo and 
> found I have a 17p deletion, which is quite negative.  For the CLL, I will go 
> on Ibrutinib, a targeted therapy.  Since Ibrutinib is a tyrosine kinase 
> inhibitor, I will need to stop Gleevec, at least for a while.  
> 
> I kind of wish my onc had been doing PCR's for a while, but at Mayo they did 
> one and found my CML was undetectable.  
> 
> Can anyone point me to any studies about stopping Gleevec after long periods 
> (in my case around 10 years) of Complete (or molecular) remission?
> 
> The current plan is to check with regular PCR's for a reemergence of the 
> BCR-ABL.  
> 
> Best wishes to all...
> 
> David  
> 
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