Yes, they never told the truth about pesticides back then. I put nothing in my yard these days. They also did mass spraying for mosquitoes back then. They would drive by and have a big sprayer going. I never knew what was in that spray. Like you said who knows??? I hope they are making a safer world today for our kids. Love❤️
My Motto: Faith and Pills❤️ With 💗Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s Chi Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia Started Gleevec 2/2004 Started Tasigna 9/2009 Started Sprycel 11/2009 Started Ponatinib January 2015 Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center > On May 22, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Funny you should mention insecticides. Gets me wondering about defoliants > specially agent orange. When I was in Vietnam they were spraying it all over > the place and I was really exposed to it. Gets me thinking about all of the > other guys that were there and now are not survivors because all of the > problems they encountered and we all were lied to... > > 18's, > > Marty > >> On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 10:18 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yes great news!!! The only thing I was doing different was donating blood >> and getting tooth X-rays and dental work. I did live by a farm that sprayed >> insecticides a lot. I had taken a plane trip on which I thought the coffee >> tasted terrible. >> We were very free with insecticides in the 50s. Who knows??? >> We were all exposed but only I got CML. >> What a great warrior you are Marty!!! >> Love ya!!! >> >> >> >>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Kathy, >>> >>> I actually have had 96 blood transfusions as well as dozens of platelet >>> infusions not mention about a dozen Gamagloblin infusions while I was >>> having my bone marrow transfusion. Let me explain why. I was born with type >>> O+ blood. Since my donor (my sister) was B+ and also a perfect HLA match >>> but the only problem was our different blood types. I had to become what is >>> called a Chimera. And unlike a solid organ transplant where the blood >>> typing must be the same between the donor and that have to be reciprocal of >>> each other. >>> That is why I had to have so many blood transfusions. >>> >>> Now it is over twenty seven years later and I had to have a kidney >>> transplant and the donor was also a perfect HLA match and even our blood >>> types matched. Now one more piece of information. If my Kidney came from a >>> living donor then it would be okay to have a blood type of O+ but not from >>> a deceased donor. >>> >>> They are making some progress in mis-matched organ transplants. >>> >>> So in my case I didn't acquire CML because I didn't have to have all of >>> those blood transfusions, I got CML before I got all of the transfusions. >>> >>> Kathy, I would love to put you into the zero Zavie's list but even though I >>> am number 1 on it I am unable to do it unfortunately Zavie is no longer >>> with us. >>> >>> However I am so glad to hear about your progress in getting rid of those >>> nasty cells is working so well. >>> >>> 18's, >>> >>> Marty >>> >>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:43 PM, kathy walls <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Marty >>>> Have you heard about one have had mega blood transfusions getting CML? >>>> Since 2005 I have over 25 transfusions due to sever blood loss during >>>> sugeries? Happy to say now I'm at 0.04!!!! Can I get a Zevia ### >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On May 21, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Jeanie, >>>>> >>>>> It all comes down to something that I wrote about the why's... >>>>> >>>>> Why me? or Why not me. >>>>> >>>>> You asked since no one in your family ever had Leukemia then why did you? >>>>> Also why me? Believe me I have tons of information that I have collected >>>>> for over 27 years and I have stumbled into some of them. >>>>> >>>>> Since I have been an Electrical Engineer for most of my life I had to >>>>> work on many projects concerning very high voltages that also included >>>>> high amounts of radio frequencies especially from some of the power >>>>> stations that feed radio and television transmitters. >>>>> >>>>> I had some friends that used to work for Con Edison in one of the power >>>>> sub stations which I had to be involved with from time to time. Whenever >>>>> I would enter the felicity the hair on my head and arms would stand on >>>>> edge even though some of those high voltage tunnels required everyone in >>>>> those high voltage areas had to wear something called a Faraday shield >>>>> and some of the power coming into that felicity from the main generating >>>>> station was around 500,000 volts. >>>>> >>>>> As it turned out there were six people working in the facility but not >>>>> every time in those high voltage tunnels, but I guess enough for everyone >>>>> to have acquired cancer of different kinds, mostly Leukemia AML but also >>>>> brain, lung and Myelodysplastic Syndrome which proved fatal to all of >>>>> them except for the one with Myelodysplastic Syndrome which had no cure. >>>>> >>>>> Amazingly he seemed to have beaten it without any explanation from the >>>>> doctor, and I actually recommended him to that doctor because I knew one >>>>> of the doctors at the time that I had my bone marrow transplant 26 years >>>>> ago that specialized in Myelodysplastic Syndrome so I asked him does >>>>> this ever happen? He told me that every once in a while it does happen. >>>>> >>>>> That man never returned to working with anything to do with high voltage >>>>> electricity. Eventually when I moved to Florida we lost contact with each >>>>> other. >>>>> >>>>> There was another article that I read about power lines that ran through >>>>> the back yards of peoples homes and it was found that a small percentage >>>>> of those people that lived near any power lines that had about 13,000 >>>>> volts did in fact have a higher chance of them getting cancer then those >>>>> that did not live near ant power lines. >>>>> >>>>> Also how about what is in the our water or air or the food that we eat >>>>> and drink? So let's say that if you are not the one that has the then it >>>>> May not >>>>> happen to you. Who knows? Only time may tell? >>>>> >>>>> 18's, >>>>> >>>>> Marty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:49 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Yes Marty I've always wondered why I got leukemia. I am the youngest of >>>>>> 11 children and no cancer in family except lung cancer and 1 breast >>>>>> cancer in my older sister. >>>>>> I didn't even know much about leukemia when I was dx. >>>>>> Even with fighting cml for 12 years I have had a full rich life. >>>>>> I got to go to the mountains with my daughters and granddaughter. We >>>>>> stayed in a beautiful cabin high in the mountains. >>>>>> We toured the Great Smoky Mountains and they are beautiful. >>>>>> I am now spending a week with my daughters and we are enjoying our >>>>>> visit. >>>>>> Yes we are born and then we die but sickness teaches us to live each day >>>>>> as it comes love each other with the time God gives us. >>>>>> Blessings to all >>>>>> ❤️❤️ >>>>>> >>>>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills❤️ >>>>>> With 💗Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s Chi >>>>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia >>>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004 >>>>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009 >>>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009 >>>>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015 >>>>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center >>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 20, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was thinking about most of us that have been through a mirage of >>>>>>> illnesses, myself included, and in thinking about it I have come to the >>>>>>> conclusion "why me" syndrome. However rather saying this, even though >>>>>>> we may be suffering in our own ways why not say "why not me"?. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In effect anyone that has had any health disturbance/s in their lives >>>>>>> are in fact a wounded solider, however, it has also become that wounds >>>>>>> heal and this makes us go on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember two movies that put an impression on me. One was the >>>>>>> Shawshank Redemption. One of the characters, Morgan Freeman told an >>>>>>> inmate that "you either get to living or get to dying. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The other was Forrest Gump, played by Tom Hanks. He was sitting on a >>>>>>> bench at a bus stop and was talking to a woman who was a total stranger >>>>>>> to him. One of the remarks he made, and this was after his mother had >>>>>>> passed away. He said she once taught him a lesson about life, "life is >>>>>>> like a box of chocolates you never know what you will get" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When we think about it the one thing that we still have is life. We >>>>>>> also know that every person in this world will have already been borne >>>>>>> and eventually will have to die, it is just how we live our lives in >>>>>>> between those times that really matters, and makes us what we are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Try to be kind to most people, be compassionate, say hello every one >>>>>>> once in a while. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember, that life is what you put in to it, and get out of it. >>>>>>> 18,s >>>>>>> Marty Gartenberg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> [CMLHope] >>>>>>> A support group of http://cmlhope.com >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "CMLHope" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/CMLHope >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received 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