Marilyn Langfeld wrote:

I've been meaning to chime in with my experience, so here goes:

My team and I have just (almost) finished up a rather large site ( http://www.naifa.org ) using Web standards, with the client using Dreamweaver and Contribute to add new pages and edit content. Most of the site is hidden from non-members. The site has several hundred pages.

When we made our proposal, the very first thing the prospective client said was, "I hope you're not going to try to sell us on your content management system, like everyone else has." I said, "No, we thought that Dreamweaver with Contribute would meet your needs." We got the job.

The client is familiar with Dreamweaver. She wanted a way for her coworkers to be able to create simple pages. They do this in Contribute. She adds anything fancy in Dreamweaver. We set up css classes for floats, tabular material, etc. The combination of Contribute for simple text pages and Dreamweaver for anything else (controlled by css classes) seems to be working well, although we've been having some problems with the configuration of Contribute on their system.

The only problem I see with this is that they can (and probably will) drift from strict Web standards, unless my client really works hard to keep the site going, since Contribute does allow you to use non standards-based markup. In addition, while it's possible to show the classes we've created in Drreamweaver, my client has to remember to pull them into each page, which may not happen as time goes on.

The benefit of Dreamweaver and Contribute is flexibility. No it's not a cms, but that's sometimes a benefit.

Best regards,

Marilyn Langfeld


Yes, I think a lot of people want to be able to interface with their content in ways that are basically easy for them. But, for a company based on Finance and Insurance, you would think that the process of having a proper log of auditable workflow, which a proper CMS does, was a very important component of managing their web presence.

The other problem is, your site (http://www.naifa.org/), after a quick look has already degraded. To me, this just proves the point of the problem. Macromedia should be able to clean their code up, but they don't. Sure they have a market for the majority of quirksmode developers, but there should be a set of tools that kick in for standards based developers. DW should have this considering it place in the market.

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Geoff Deering
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