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Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:36:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer? + boat cleaning & putting away This is a perfect place for the "85% rule". I used this rule in my professional career and use it a lot as a race skipper. Here's how it is: "If it's 85% of the way I would have done it, it's OK". Like Martin (and many others), I let the crew do a lot of putting the boat away. More often than not, they get within that 85% window. After they leave, I may redo some of it that fell outside the window. Case in point. Last week, the Admiral's grandson "helped" me repair some sheetrock in a closet in the house. I had to loosen the rule a bit, more like a 60% rule. Heck, it's sheetrock REPAIR. Gotta slop the mud on anyway. Specifically, he bent a lot of nails and made a few new holes and dings in the walls. After he left, I repaired his "repairs". He felt good about helping and stayed out of trouble. The extra work for me was better than dealing with a sullen kid. Bottom line, keep the crew happy, tell them they did a good job then redo things after they leave. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer? + boat cleaning Chuck, Based on the evidence: >After a race, I like to put the boat away alone, so I know where everything >is. >I want my boat how I want it, …. You are a text book case of ARSS. (Anally-retentive sailor’s syndrome) As a charter member of the ARSS support group’s PNW chapter I can recognize the symptoms from a great distance. Sadly there is no “purple pill” to cure ARSS. Your crew’s tolerance and early exit post race are the only know treatments. Calypso’s crew quickly learns that once the big stuff is done I prefer to finish putting the boat away by myself. When a greenhorn asks how/where to tie on a fender the more experienced crew tell them the general location with a follow up of “don’t worry, Martin will redo it after you leave”. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer? Good topic: Who pays for food and beer? I started racing two years ago so I'm new to racing and the customary rituals necessary to help the crew bond and keep returning. I see I have been wrong, releasing them to drive home as soon as we touch the dock. After a race, I like to put the boat away alone, so I know where everything is. I also feel I need some quiet time after racing, so I try to get them to party on the two hour run to the dock. My dock is behind a private residence with no room to party, so I might have to find a watering hole where we can share a drink before everybody drives home. Some of my guys drive over an hour, so not sure how that will fly? Otherwise I keep plenty of water bottles in the ice box along with ginger ale, coke, pepsi, sprite or fresca, iced tea, and plenty of a light beer. Some guys add their favorite beer to the ice. I do all the boat prep and carry all expenses, entry fees repair costs etc. I want my boat how I want it, the crew to enjoy the race, work hard at winning, but have fun, and come back. We don't have alcohol during the racing, but maybe one after the last race, (it's a two hour sail or motor from the racing venue to our dock) and definitely offer drinks at the dock. I tell them to take some drinks (soda or water) with them for the drive home. We just completed the Atlantic City Race Week Regatta. We had a crew of 5 on Friday and I provided doughnuts for the morning, and Italian hoagies for lunch. Some of the crew brought their own lunch, but the hoagie was devoured. They liked that. Saturday, crew of 7, we waited on the docks all day but the races were eventually cancelled. I had doughnuts and turkey and chicken wraps for the crew, but 4 crew went sightseeing at Revel's new casino during the wait, and had lunch watching the ocean from the casino. Sunday, I had a crew of 6. I bought a 2 ft hoagie cut into 6 pieces. Plus I had 4 wraps left over from the day before. Some crew brought their own sandwiches and the hoagie was devoured. The wraps were left behind. (note to self: the guys don't like wraps) I've brought lots of snacks, and other drinks like Gatorade, but they don't get touched, so I pared it down. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City , NJ From: "Rich Knowles" <r...@sailpower.ca> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:19:20 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer? I'm a cheap sod. I supply the hydrocarbons, they supply the carbohydrates. But not all the time.... Rich Knowles Indigo LF38 Halifax , Nova Scotia _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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